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− | {{u|Wifione}} is an editor who has made a series of promotional edits to articles about [[IIPM]] and [[Arindam Chaudhuri]]. He has skillfully evaded detection, even after being "outed" in a Wikipediocracy blog post. Despite numerous past abuses, he became a Wikipedia administrator in September 2010 | + | {{u|Wifione}} is an editor who has made a series of promotional edits to articles about [[IIPM]] and [[Arindam Chaudhuri]]. He/she has skillfully evaded detection, even after being "outed" in a Wikipediocracy blog post. Despite numerous past abuses, s/he became a Wikipedia administrator in September 2010. |
==Early accounts== | ==Early accounts== | ||
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Hi Ricky, you just left a message on the administrative noticeboard [45] which said "Two choices: either file an WP:SSI right now or the next time I see a sockpuppet or outing attempt, you will be blocked. If it's true, we'll deal with it. Otherwise, it's nonsense that disruptive. Repeated on the talk page.". Who was the message intended for? It's not clear whether you were writing to me (the person who's complained about the "attempt to out") or the person whom I've complained about (user Makrandjoshi). Wireless Fidelity Class One (talk 10:31, 9 December 2009 (UTC) | Hi Ricky, you just left a message on the administrative noticeboard [45] which said "Two choices: either file an WP:SSI right now or the next time I see a sockpuppet or outing attempt, you will be blocked. If it's true, we'll deal with it. Otherwise, it's nonsense that disruptive. Repeated on the talk page.". Who was the message intended for? It's not clear whether you were writing to me (the person who's complained about the "attempt to out") or the person whom I've complained about (user Makrandjoshi). Wireless Fidelity Class One (talk 10:31, 9 December 2009 (UTC) | ||
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+ | I hope [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Makrandjoshi&diff=prev&oldid=330641557 this] is clear, as are [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AThe_Indian_Institute_of_Planning_and_Management&action=historysubmit&diff=330641877&oldid=330622374 these edits]. If you are suggesting someone is a sockpuppet or guessing at people's motivations, same warning to you but I don't see that. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 10:34, 9 December 2009 (UTC) | ||
Hi Ricky, perhaps you're mistaken. You left a message on my talk saying "If you are suggesting someone is a sockpuppet or guessing at people's motivations". I want you to kindly correct your statement. I have never even remotely suggested anyone is a sock puppet or have I guessed people's motivations. My complaint against user Makrandjoshi was that he kept on assuming everybody around is a sock puppet and he kept on assuming everybody's motivations. Kindly don't get me wrong, but I need you to realise I am not the one saying everybody is a sock puppet. Thanks Wireless Fidelity Class One (talk 10:45, 9 December 2009 (UTC) | Hi Ricky, perhaps you're mistaken. You left a message on my talk saying "If you are suggesting someone is a sockpuppet or guessing at people's motivations". I want you to kindly correct your statement. I have never even remotely suggested anyone is a sock puppet or have I guessed people's motivations. My complaint against user Makrandjoshi was that he kept on assuming everybody around is a sock puppet and he kept on assuming everybody's motivations. Kindly don't get me wrong, but I need you to realise I am not the one saying everybody is a sock puppet. Thanks Wireless Fidelity Class One (talk 10:45, 9 December 2009 (UTC) | ||
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+ | Just a general point. I haven't looked through your edits, but I just wanted to make sure it's clear the same thing applies to everybody (some people don't get that). -- Ricky81682 (talk) 11:00, 9 December 2009 (UTC) | ||
Cool. Got it. At least a short term block would have been good after so many instances. But thanks for the reply. Tc Wireless Fidelity Class One (talk 11:06, 9 December 2009 (UTC) | Cool. Got it. At least a short term block would have been good after so many instances. But thanks for the reply. Tc Wireless Fidelity Class One (talk 11:06, 9 December 2009 (UTC) | ||
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+ | A block would be punishment, which is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BLOCK#Purpose_and_goal against policy]. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 11:08, 9 December 2009 (UTC) | ||
Oh no. Didn't mean to go against policy. But when I saw this link on harrasment here [46], it said that "attempted outing is grounds for an immediate block". So was surprised you are still warning a user who has been requested by me so many times not to accuse, told on Wikiquette's twice not to accuse, and also told by an administrator y'day on the noticeboard complaint (Dmack), after which he again said I was a sock. That's why I was wondering. Wireless Fidelity Class One (talk 11:34, 9 December 2009 (UTC) | Oh no. Didn't mean to go against policy. But when I saw this link on harrasment here [46], it said that "attempted outing is grounds for an immediate block". So was surprised you are still warning a user who has been requested by me so many times not to accuse, told on Wikiquette's twice not to accuse, and also told by an administrator y'day on the noticeboard complaint (Dmack), after which he again said I was a sock. That's why I was wondering. Wireless Fidelity Class One (talk 11:34, 9 December 2009 (UTC) | ||
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**''"Wifione, I think you should know about this and this. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 08:39, 6 March 2012 (UTC)"'' | **''"Wifione, I think you should know about this and this. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 08:39, 6 March 2012 (UTC)"'' | ||
**''"Thanks Vejvančický. Appreciate the note. Replied considerably. Do contact me for any further assistance. Kind regards. Wifione Message 05:33, 7 March 2012 (UTC)"'' | **''"Thanks Vejvančický. Appreciate the note. Replied considerably. Do contact me for any further assistance. Kind regards. Wifione Message 05:33, 7 March 2012 (UTC)"'' | ||
+ | **See also [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tinucherian/Archives/2012/March#Hello here]. "I discussed this with some other admins and active Wikipedians. Nobody wants to fight this case. The alleged institution has an infamous history of suing individuals for insane amounts, that too at the courts in the remotest parts of the nation. I did also inform some of the members of Arb Com. They feel that there is no credible evidence as such -- Tinu Cherian - 11:45, 6 March 2012 (UTC)" Vejvančický played a large part in bringing Wifi to justice, nearly 3 years later. | ||
**''"Are you Nichalp? --SmokeyJoe (talk) 10:42, 7 March 2012 (UTC)"'' | **''"Are you Nichalp? --SmokeyJoe (talk) 10:42, 7 March 2012 (UTC)"'' | ||
**''"Hi Smokey. No, I'm not. Do write back for any other assistance. Best regards. Wifione Message 19:16, 7 March 2012 (UTC)"'' | **''"Hi Smokey. No, I'm not. Do write back for any other assistance. Best regards. Wifione Message 19:16, 7 March 2012 (UTC)"'' | ||
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Wifione did not comment. Later, in response to an email from Peter Damian (Dec 14, 2013 6:57:38 PM) Jimbo raised the issue on his page again. | Wifione did not comment. Later, in response to an email from Peter Damian (Dec 14, 2013 6:57:38 PM) Jimbo raised the issue on his page again. | ||
:''"There was a discussion about this here a while back that got a bit heated. I'd like to restart that conversation primarily by asking people to post a neutral summary of what is known and not known. I'd appreciate Wifione commenting here as well.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 18:43, 16 December 2013 (UTC)"'' [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_152#User:Wifione Link] | :''"There was a discussion about this here a while back that got a bit heated. I'd like to restart that conversation primarily by asking people to post a neutral summary of what is known and not known. I'd appreciate Wifione commenting here as well.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 18:43, 16 December 2013 (UTC)"'' [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_152#User:Wifione Link] | ||
+ | :::Well those are certainly very poor edits, and they certainly do not meet my expectations of what Admin editing behavior should be like. But isn't the allegation that he has a specifically financial conflict of interest? What is the evidence for that?--[[Wikipedia:User:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]] ([[Wikipedia:User talk:Jimbo Wales#top|talk]]) [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=prev&oldid=586643297 14:26, 18 December 2013 (UTC)] | ||
Much talk was posted, no action was taken. Wifione did not participate in either discussion. ''"It's striking that there's yet to be any comment whatsoever from User:Wifione. --SB_Johnny | talk✌ 00:16, 23 December 2013 (UTC)"'' | Much talk was posted, no action was taken. Wifione did not participate in either discussion. ''"It's striking that there's yet to be any comment whatsoever from User:Wifione. --SB_Johnny | talk✌ 00:16, 23 December 2013 (UTC)"'' | ||
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It is taken on [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&oldid=620880395#Wikipedia:Editor_review.2FWifione 07:16, 12 August 2014] to Wales' talkpage – no one is interested. | It is taken on [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&oldid=620880395#Wikipedia:Editor_review.2FWifione 07:16, 12 August 2014] to Wales' talkpage – no one is interested. | ||
+ | ==August 2014== | ||
+ | Vejvančický [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=rights&user=&page=User:Vejvan%C4%8Dick%C3%BD resigns as administrator] 23 August 2014 as a result of Wifi's manipulation. | ||
+ | :Please remove the admin user right from my account. I don't want to be in the same elevated rank with dishonest manipulators, such as User:Wifione. I'll try to continue as an ordinary editor (I still consider myself one), although I've lost my trust to Wikipedia as a project that can recognize between good and bad, or at least search for honest answers. No, Wikipedia is deaf and helpless. Good luck with your nice and polite cheaters. --Vejvančický [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Bureaucrats%27_noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=622438140 06:58, 23 August 2014 (UTC)] | ||
===December 2014=== | ===December 2014=== | ||
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On 24 December [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive866#Legal_Threat he complains on ANI again but is given short shrift]. He closes himself, although it is then reopened by Cole. | On 24 December [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive866#Legal_Threat he complains on ANI again but is given short shrift]. He closes himself, although it is then reopened by Cole. | ||
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+ | ==Exceptional claims == | ||
+ | As Vejvan points out, W1 edited the very policy pages that s/he used to defend reversions. | ||
+ | : Wifione, I've noticed that you frequently quote [[wikipedia:WP:WELLKNOWN]] and [[wikipedia:WP:EXCEPTIONAL]]. I think that it is important to note that it was you who helped to shape these policies. I've checked some of your edits to [[wikipedia:WP:EXCEPTIONAL]]: You seem to be the "inventor" of the WP:EXCEPTIONAL shortcut ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=475701198&title=Wikipedia%3AVerifiability&diff=prev 8 February 2012]). [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verifiability&diff=prev&oldid=471094081 Here] you've added ''multiple'' to the [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Verifiability#Exceptional_claims_require_exceptional_sources]], with the edit summary "clarify... source's' means multiple"; [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verifiability&diff=prev&oldid=471274415 here] you add "Editors should avoid including exceptional claims that are not supported by ''multiple'' reliable sources"; [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=471433121&title=Wikipedia%3AVerifiability&diff=prev here] you (again) add ''multiple'' to the section (edit summary: "Clarifying plural: Source's'-> multiple"); here you add [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=471983628&title=Wikipedia%3AVerifiability&diff=prev Any such claim not backed by ''multiple'' high-quality sources '''''should be removed immediately'''''] (my emphasis). All these edits/additions/modifications are from 13-18 January 2012, and they were not discussed on the talk page, as far as I can see. On 11 January 2012 (days before you started editing [[wikipedia:WP:VERIFIABILITY]] or WP:EXCEPTIONAL), [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=470865165&title=Arindam_Chaudhuri&diff=prev you've completely removed referenced criticism] from the article [[wikipedia:Arindam Chaudhuri]], stating "Please don't use primary sources for exceptional claims". On 28 January 2012, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=473723374&title=Indian_Institute_of_Management_Tiruchirappalli&diff=prev you've removed a complete section] (containing rather positive claims) from the article [[wikipedia:Indian Institute of Management Tiruchirappalli]], quoting [[wikipedia:WP:EXCEPTIONAL]]. [https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/summary.py?name=Wifione&search=except&max=500&server=enwiki&ns= This edit summary search] shows what preceded your edits to WP:V and, in my opinion, it also clearly shows why did you become interested in WP:EXCEPTIONAL. I have to agree with [[wikipedia:User:The Telephone Company]] who pointed out to you at [[wikipedia:Talk:Arindam Chaudhuri]] in February 2012: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AArindam_Chaudhuri&diff=477843558&oldid=477826460 "It will also be helpful to note that you find it convenient to edit policy pages when it suits your interests."] --[[wikipedia:User:Vejvančický|Vejvančický]] ([[wikipedia:User_talk:Vejvančický|talk]] / [[wikipedia:Special:Contributions/Vejvančický|contribs]]) 07:48, 24 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
=='''Dear''' editors== | =='''Dear''' editors== | ||
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*''"'''Dear''' Neil, then you should perhaps write that "objections with respect to its advertising" and "tax and trade practices investigations" which were resolved later. That is a neutral point of view, imo. ▒ Wirεłεşş ▒ Fidεłitұ ▒ Ćłâşş ▒ Θnε ▒ ―Œ ♣Łεâvε Ξ мεşşâgε♣ [29 December 2009]"'' | *''"'''Dear''' Neil, then you should perhaps write that "objections with respect to its advertising" and "tax and trade practices investigations" which were resolved later. That is a neutral point of view, imo. ▒ Wirεłεşş ▒ Fidεłitұ ▒ Ćłâşş ▒ Θnε ▒ ―Œ ♣Łεâvε Ξ мεşşâgε♣ [29 December 2009]"'' | ||
− | == | + | ==Block threats== |
− | *[ | + | *... Makrandjoshi also writes, "Are you denying being an IIPM employee?" I would like to address this as a clear Attempted Outing Harassment issue on user Makrandjoshi. I want to inform administrators that I am writing directly also to the oversight committee for deleting that talk edit from Wikipedia permanently, irrespective of whether I am or not an IIPM employee. And I still await when user Makrandjoshi will be blocked pending action. Wireless Fidelity Class One [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive584#Help_please:_User_Makrand_Joshi_is_personally_attacking.2C_harrassing_me.2C_recurringly_over_the_past_many_months.2C_almost_wiki-hounding_me 09:43, 9 December 2009 (UTC)] |
+ | *It is surprising that the user Makrandjoshi is getting away with a simple warning after such a history. I would request a block for corrective action in the future and not as punishmment Wireless Fidelity Class One (talk [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=330811397 05:46, 10 December 2009 (UTC)] | ||
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==Arbitration== | ==Arbitration== | ||
+ | ===Acceptance=== | ||
And with no warning, on Boxing Day 2014 [[Jonathan Hochman]] decides to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&oldid=639869182#Wifione file an arbitration] against Wifione, for the same things pointed out in the Wikipediocracy blog post a year prior: paid editing, lying, and "POV pushing". See [[Wifione arbitration case]] for further evidence. Virtually all the posted comments agreed that Wifione had violated Wikipedia policies, yet they differed on what action should be taken. | And with no warning, on Boxing Day 2014 [[Jonathan Hochman]] decides to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&oldid=639869182#Wifione file an arbitration] against Wifione, for the same things pointed out in the Wikipediocracy blog post a year prior: paid editing, lying, and "POV pushing". See [[Wifione arbitration case]] for further evidence. Virtually all the posted comments agreed that Wifione had violated Wikipedia policies, yet they differed on what action should be taken. | ||
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The case is officially opened on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Wifione 2 January]. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&oldid=640206802#Wifione:_Arbitrators.27_opinion_on_hearing_this_matter_.3C6.287.29.2F0.2F1.281.29.2F1.3E The final vote], including new members of Arbcom, comes to 12 "accept" votes and two recusals. | The case is officially opened on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Wifione 2 January]. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&oldid=640206802#Wifione:_Arbitrators.27_opinion_on_hearing_this_matter_.3C6.287.29.2F0.2F1.281.29.2F1.3E The final vote], including new members of Arbcom, comes to 12 "accept" votes and two recusals. | ||
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+ | See also [[Harry_Mitchell#A_moment_of_stupidity]] | ||
+ | ===Closure=== | ||
+ | The case was finally [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Wifione/Proposed_decision#Motion_to_close closed] on 13 February 2015. Remarkably, the arbs voted [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Wifione/Proposed_decision#Proposed_remedies almost unanimously] to desysop Wifione, and to site-ban her. She was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=Wifione blocked] by Courcelles. | ||
+ | The awful [[Chris Carter-Smith|Kudpung]] gave the glory to the awful [[Harry Mitchell]]: | ||
+ | :Your [Michell’s] contribution to this case was largely resonsible for, and vital to, its conclusion by the arbitrators. I've already said how much I appreciate you having gone well beyond the bounds of duty to research your material, but I would like to illustrate how this particular case is important in more ways than one. | ||
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+ | :I particularly liked the admin in question and had absolutely no previous inkling of what came to be exposed at Arbcom. I somehow missed out on voting on their RfA, you supported it but no one can criticise you for that. Even the adherents of the anti-admin brigade were unable to to sway it to a non-promotion although it was a fairly close call. | ||
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+ | :The message the recent disclosure sends to us all therefore, is that anyone who is thinking of starting yet another perennial motion to lower the bar at RfA had better think again. We can't be careful enough when (s)eleting our admins and we have a duty (including me of all people) to do more research before placing our !votes in the upstairs lobby. I already made the mistake of supporting one candidate who later turned into an unpleasant adversary and was finally desysoped for acting in a way totally unbecoming for the role we invest in our admins. See you for a beer as soon as possible. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:HJ_Mitchell&diff=647045704&oldid=647042782 03:25, 14 February 2015 (UTC)] | ||
+ | There was no mention whatsoever of the role of Wikipediocracy. | ||
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+ | ==Facebook mates== | ||
+ | Private PM to Peter Damian Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:36 am: | ||
+ | : I believe that the useless Makrand's block is a signal, but I don't know exactly what kind of signal. In any case it's blunt and reckless. Kudpung posted on Wifione's talk on 1 January, before we posted the evidence. Now it's clear to them that there's no way out of this for Wifi, but they are (I mean [[Harry Mitchell|HJ]], Kudpung and Wifi) old "friends" in the wikisense and HJ and [[Chris Carter-Smith|Kudpung]] accept Wifi's fall only "with gritted teeth" (not sure if I use the right expression). Yesterday I noticed that [[Derrick Coetzee|Dcoetzee]] (banned by WMF) frequently participates in friendly chats on HJ's facebook page, with many WP admins and WMF staff. Strange. | ||
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+ | ==Weird message from India Against Corruption== | ||
+ | On Wifi's talk page [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wifione&diff=prev&oldid=646944095 13 Feb 2015]<ref> Revision now suppressed</ref>. | ||
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+ | From India Against Corruption | ||
+ | :Hi Deepali, | ||
+ | :Your case is important to us in India as it exposes how Wikimedia's admins get away with harassment and libeling of innocent organisations like IAC over years and years by gaming the system. | ||
+ | :Once the decision in your case is published, IAC shall be prosecuting you under India's criminal laws for your syndicate's negative edits about IAC and IAC related articles. The record of this matter causes us to believe that you are Deepali Sakhare, Deepak Shah, and other persons closely associated with one Arindam Chaudhuri who had impersonated as India Against Corruption from Delhi's Ramlila grounds. | ||
+ | :You have attempted to harass us with a motive to criminally extort thousands of dollars from us, and have done so with full knowledge of your co-website administrators and owners like Jimmy Wales, Roger Davies, HJ Mitchell, Jonathan Hochcmann etc. who are all in this business of SEO and Pay-per-click defamation to profit by misuse of IAC's good name and reputation. | ||
+ | :IAC specifically mentions that your agent Ms. Bishakha Datta {WMF trustee} had suggested that we pay your firm Rs. 2 lakhs - about US$4,000 - to restore the Sarbajit Roy article, and had also suggested we pay US$20,000 for the India Against Corruption article to be corrected. | ||
+ | :Incidentally, these facts are now in the ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE of WMF in parallel proceedings in Switzerland where WMF is a party and represented through counsel. We sincerely hope you are GLOBALLY BANNED by WMF and your identity is disclosed to the Indian police and Indian courts. | ||
+ | :We are also bringing this matter to Mr. Chauhan's notice and also to Mr. Kamal Nath's as it seems that only 69 out of your 1,200 sock puppet accounts are going to be blocked. | ||
+ | :Have a nice day. | ||
+ | :India Against Corruption | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==Makes Newsweek== | ||
+ | *[http://www.newsweek.com/2015/04/03/manipulating-wikipedia-promote-bogus-business-school-316133.html Manipulating Wikipedia to Promote a Bogus Business School], Alastair Sloan, ''Newsweek'', March 24, 2015 12:20 PM EDT | ||
+ | *[http://news.slashdot.org/story/15/03/25/1312210/wikipedia-admins-manipulation-messed-up-perhaps-15000-students-lives Slashdot]. | ||
+ | **"One might even blame Indian journalists, like the one who is quoted in this article blaming Wikipedia, for not better informing the public about legitimate and scam educational institutions." | ||
+ | **"They go to "great expense" to send their children on courses there, but can't afford a SIM card to do any research?" | ||
+ | **"Most degrees from India are bogus as far as I can tell". | ||
+ | **" Searching for honest employees and then only looking at resumes from Indians is like searching for sober employees and then only looking at resumes from Russians." | ||
==See also== | ==See also== | ||
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXF5_G_AnPA Maheshwer Peri of Careers360 takes on Arindam Chaudhary] (Youtube) | *[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXF5_G_AnPA Maheshwer Peri of Careers360 takes on Arindam Chaudhary] (Youtube) | ||
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w62SQfcDAY The people vs Arindam Chaudhuri: Did govt block free speech?] | *[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w62SQfcDAY The people vs Arindam Chaudhuri: Did govt block free speech?] | ||
+ | *[http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Beitr%C3%A4ge/Wifione Wifi German Wikipedia account] | ||
==Notes== | ==Notes== |
Latest revision as of 05:22, 11 April 2015
Wifione (T-C-F-R-B) is an editor who has made a series of promotional edits to articles about IIPM and Arindam Chaudhuri. He/she has skillfully evaded detection, even after being "outed" in a Wikipediocracy blog post. Despite numerous past abuses, s/he became a Wikipedia administrator in September 2010.
Contents
- 1 Early accounts
- 2 Dean.A.Sandeep
- 3 Carlisle Rodham
- 4 Suraj845
- 5 Mrinal Pandey
- 6 Missing edits
- 7 Gender
- 8 Makrandjoshi
- 9 Timeline December 2008 - June 2009
- 10 2010
- 11 2011
- 12 2012
- 13 2013
- 14 2014
- 15 August 2014
- 16 Exceptional claims
- 17 Dear editors
- 18 Block threats
- 19 Arbitration
- 20 Facebook mates
- 21 Weird message from India Against Corruption
- 22 Makes Newsweek
- 23 See also
- 24 Links
- 25 Notes
Early accounts
Chomsky
Almost certainly edited as Drnoamchomsky (T-C-F-R-B), last edit 05:36, 28 November 2005. See the RFC in November 2005. In this diff he adds a claim supposedly sourced from Business Week, a subscription only publication. When an investigator paid to see the source, it did not contain the claim. "NOTE: FORE School of Management, New Delhi; IIM, Indore; IIM, Kozhikode; IIPM, Delhi & Mumbai; IRMA, Anand; and Osmania University, Hyderabad, failed to respond to our queries. All information has been collected from the schools before this section went to press on September 16."
- So quite clearly, the user in question told a barefaced lie. You don't have to take my word for it. If you are unwilling to subscribe to Business Today, send me an email through Wikipedia and if you are a longstanding user of Wikipedia, I will respond by giving you access to the Business today site.
Chomsky replies very politely, saying there must have been a mistake. "All I can think of is that they have removed IIPM's name from the online version based on complaints from the institute that IIPM has been ranked inspite of not wanting to take part in this survey."
Note that here he writes "What controversy? Other institutes dont organise any lectures - we do".
The same insidious politeness
- I'm assuming good faith on your part, and am not reverting your changes. Please let me know. Thanks, and best wishes as always, --Drnoamchomsky 11:01, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
- I urge you to place greater faith in me, and other fellow members who have recently found Wiki. I love the mission, and zeal, and enterprise, and principles, that drive this community. [...] Drnoamchomsky 18:38, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Iipmstudent9
Chomsky changed account to Iipmstudent9 (T-C-F-R-B), as proved by this edit, blocked in February 2007.
Note this
- K.Yes, this id is used by multiple students from the New Delhi campus. We were not aware that this was against Wiki policy, and have agreed to get new accounts for each of us. And we're just looking to protect our institute's interests - as current students and then alumni, unsubstantiated allegations by bloggers on a Wiki page make our institute look bad! :( But, in the process, we certainly have learnt and enjoyed using Wikipedia! :) --Iipmstudent9 03:56, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
Blocked indefinitely for issuing a legal threat.
- My lawyers have advised me that under the Indian IT act, MakrandJoshi has been harassing me,. By revealing my identity, and continously harassing em online, it constitutes stalking. I will take it up this week with the Mumbai police authorities. [User:Iipmstudent9|Iipmstudent9] 11:40, 11 February 2007 (UTC).
- http://iipmranking.blogspot.co.uk/ " IIPM Rankings is a blog created by an IIPM Student. As a student, I want to share my experiene and opinions of the institute - The Indian Institute of Planning and Management" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/203.145.128.5
Edits from 61.16.233.196 (T-C-F-R-B). Interleaves: 07:38, 29 November 2005. See also 06:59, 12 December 2005, and in this edit on 08:26, 13 December 2005, actually signs as iipmstudent9. But on 07:44, 8 September 2006 signs as 'Mrinal'.
See also 14:33, 25 February 2006 " (rv to ponytailsnipper's version - what fun! Dipali's back!)", reverting edit from same IP.
See Archive 10. Name is Dipali Sakhare, employee of IIPM?
Dipali Sakhare
Or 'Deepali'. Was employed by Chaudhuri. (Linked in). Was “instrumental in establishing the PR division of Planman Consulting in India.” Including Wikipedia?
Present employer, Global Consulting Corporation, which seems to have some connection with IIPM. See WO.
Organises festival in 2010, mentioned as managing partner of GCC.
- Looks like Dipali Sakhare was on leave today. :) Ponytailsnipper (T-C-F-R-B) 15:31, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
- HaHa, asked the ofice in iipm. Dipali is indeed on leave, and will be on leave today as well. So we'll see no edits or reverts from 'iipmstudent9' for a while. 202.63.162.226 (T-C-F-R-B) 07:46, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- 14:33, 25 February 2006 " (rv to ponytailsnipper's version - what fun! Dipali's back!)"
- I believe Dipali clearly said she wanted to use the positive line like IIPM does not seek recognition or accreditation … 19:20, 11 February 2007 AlamSrinivas
- Have you indeed been sued by Dipali Sakhare as she threatened to do in these very talk pages a few weeks back? Did IIPM people also track down your address and threaten or physically harm you? I believe we as editors have a right to know this since if the threats have been carried out, it affects us too. Ponytailsnipper 04:24, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Iipmalum
- I am based out of DLF City, in New Delhi. Was drawn to the IIPM article after someone on the alumni association mail group mentioned it. Hope to contribute to the articles on Spirituality and Fitness in due course.
Nearly all edits are to the IIPM article. Takes a long break from 11 December 2005 to 28 January 2007.
Per Tarantino.
The Iipmstudent9 account claimed it was used by more than one person. Here on Konrad West's talk page in 2005, the newly created account Iipmalum says,
- K, hi there, I've created a seperate ID for myself. So now IIPM Student9 abd me use seperate accounts, and whenever the others go online on WIki they will make thier own ID's. Thanks for the note on IIPMStudent9's page - he's got tests this month and told me he is pulling an all nighter. I'll fill in! :) --Iipmalum07:20, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Two years later, Iipmalum was autoblocked because they used the same IP address as Iipmstudent9. Luna Santin declined their unblock request, saying,
- Doesn't appear to be a shared or widely shared IP address, which unfortunately makes it seem likely that you're the same person. If you are a different user, please be aware that autoblocks generally expire in about 24 hours. – Luna Santin (talk) 19:33, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Dean.A.Sandeep
Dean.A.Sandeep (T-C-F-R-B) very briefly edited on 31 March 2009. Went straight to the requests for page protection - one of Wifi's favourits.
- I request administrators to kindly remove the edit lock.[1]
Carlisle Rodham
Suraj845
Suraj845 (T-C-F-R-B) page created in November 2009, in the familiar style of the Pandey sockfarm. Never blocked, operating as recently as 2013, interleaving with Wifione on the Arindam Chaudhuri (T-H-L-F-C) article.
Mrinal Pandey
Bizarrely her user page is created on 25 Dec 2006 by iipmstudent9. Who Pandey earlier denied being.
- Whoa, Deepak, Ambuj, I'm being given too much importance. For the sake of clarity :-) I'm not iipmstudent9 or whoever the person is; and I do not subscribe to the manner in which those statements have been made. And Deepak, thanks for the point about you keeping out personal remarks out of your conversation :-) No offence taken anyway. Take care and best wishes, Mrinal 203.76.132.74 06:02, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Considers RfA.
Sockpuppeting 2008
Proposed deletion of controversy section
"As the controversy section is fairly outdated and holds no relevance now, given the High Court rulings favouring IIPM, I propose deleting the complete controversy section." says paid editor Mrinal Pandey. "What makes you say it is out of relevance?" asks Joshua Artgobain Benedict, a sockpuppet of Pandey. "Seems to be sensible". Says Addy kundu, another sockpuppet. "Yes, delete!" Deborah Fernandes adds her voice to the chorus. But she too is another sockpuppet. And so say sockpuppets -Sumitpatel12 and Ianchapell.
Mode of account creation
All the Pandey sleepers created user pages with some irrelevant material, then went to edit the IIPM article. For example Simransachdeva (T-C-F-R-B) whose page begins "Here I will give you an idea you about creating a cool Burning firey Text Effect inferno". Or Kunalnayar (T-C-F-R-B) – "Take a new file of 500 pixels, 300 pixels, of resolution 72 dpi in the RGB mode." The full list is here.
Wifione uses the same technique here. It was created 1 April 2009, she makes a few minor edits, then sleeps until 26 June 2009.
- "Hi Versageek, I noticed you had commented on the investigation with respect to my id being suspected of being a sock puppet. I also saw a statement in my investigation from you that said it is 'possible' that I am a sock puppet. I just wished to find out the reasons you said that. Also, I noticed that against 'possible', a line was written - "same ISP than some previous sockpuppets" I wanted to know whether this is true or not; that my ISP is the same as some previous sockpuppets, and whether that would be enough reason to term this case as a possible case of sock puppetry. I wanted to request you to guide me to the right forum to find out the reasons, if this is not the correct place. Thanks, Wifione (talk) 09:42, 1 July 2009 (UTC)"
- "You do indeed share an ISP with the Mrinal Pandey sock farms. Lots of people share ISPs, so I don't consider it enough to say with certainty that you are another sock of that user. You also share a number of behaviors with the Pandey socks, this - combined with the shared ISP is what led me to state that it's possible you are a sock. You need to tread lightly on the IIPM article, there is a long history of attempts to whitewash there. Reliable sources aren't limited to large, mainstream western media outlets - especially when it comes to dealing with non-western subject matter. --Versageek 15:46, 1 July 2009 (UTC)"
SPI
Link First wave Dec 2008.
Sockpuppet investigation. Includes a sock request for Wifione, but this was inconclusive, except that s/he used the same ISP.
IPs used
- 61.16.233.194
- 61.16.233.196
- 219.65.248.68
- 219.65.248.193
- 203.76.140.130
- 203.76.135.250
- 203.76.132.74
- 125.19.3.2
- 58.68.49.70 See below.
IP 58.68.49.70 and Onkareshwar Pandey
This is the key to understanding the connection between Pandey and Wifione. Edits IIPM dab page as IP 58.68.49.70, then re-edits as Wifione. 58.68.49.70 is Mrinal Pandey's IP.
Corrects one of the IP edits with comment “I had repeated the acronym. So corrected it”. Notice the pronoun 'I', which refers both to the IP editor, and to Wifione.
IP edit to his user page is clearly connected with previous sockpuppeting by the institute. Spotted by Tarantino.
- 58.68.49.70 is the same IP that's used by Mrinal Pandey, who was indefinitely blocked in December 2008 for using 43 accounts to edit IIPM related articles. Arbcom unblocked her in August 2009, and she promptly changed her user name to Empengent (T-C-F-R-B) and blanked her talk page. The Wifione account was created months before and Makrandjoshi had her figured out soon afterwards.
Other edits which are connected with the editor of The Sunday Indian.
- 13:30, 12 November 2008 Edits Bhojpuri language: “This year is being considered as the Opening of Golden Era for Bhojpuri language. The reason is, Bhojpuri has got its first weekly news magazine which is being published from Planman Media group based at Delhi. The Group is owned by Prof. Arinadam Chaudhuray, Economist and Noted Managment Guru and the Editor in Chief of THE SUNDAY INDIAN. This magazine is being published in 14 Indian Languages including Bhojpuri. Mr. Onkareshwar Pandey, Noted TV & Print Journalist and formar Resident Editor of Rashtriya Sahara … has been given additional Charge of Bhojpuri weekly with Hindi.". See also this promotional edit, 13:54, 12 November 2008, and this, which focuses on Pandey. The edits are still there in 2015.
- A few days there is the edit which identifies the IP with Mrinal.
- 21:33, 18 February 2009 on Bihari culture (T-H-L-F-C). More reference to O. Pandey.
- 12:09, 25 March 2009 " Rajanish Rane- Asstt. Editor, The Sunday Indian (news magzine publish in 14 languages), journalist from mumbai-delhi contact-9899222993", List of Marathi people (T-H-L-F-C).
- 10:57, 8 September 2009 "MR.Sadashiv tripathi [veteran journalist with 25 years of experience in differrnt media houses, ranging from print to electronic and New Media pesently Editor of world's first Bhojpuri news weekly TSI, from Delhi, in 14 languages]".
- This edit by the 58.68.49.70 IP to the Hindi Wikipedia on 09:23 , 24 March 2010 adds a link to the article Okareshwar Pandey. "Executive Editor , The Sunday Indian , Hindi and Bhojpuri" The article was deleted "Doesn't belong on Wikipedia". LinkedIn confirms the identity of Pandey, as does his Wikipedia user page. He was executive editor of the Sunday Indian from 2008-10, and managing editor from 2010 to 2013. The paper is published by Planman, a company owned by Chaudhuri.
- 11:53, 29 November 2010 promoting Sunday Indian.
See also:
- Academia page "Kindly consider the following points",
- Voices.com
- BHOJPURI NEEDS ANNA HAZARE TYPE MOVEMENT
Email addresses: globalbhojpuri@gmail.com, editoronkar@gmail.com.
Whois Server whois.apnic.net Status ALLOCATED Contact Email
Registrant IIPM IN Administrative Contact Rajesh Madhamshetti Dishnet Limited 19/32, Cathedral Garden Raod,, Nungambakkam, Ch Telephone: 914442280000 Email: Technical Contact Rajesh Madhamshetti Dishnet Limited 19/32, Cathedral Garden Raod,, Nungambakkam, Ch Telephone: 914442280000 Email: 58.68.49.70 is the IP address you have a ran a report for on December, 18, 2013.
Other common IPs
Per Tarantino Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:23 pm
Here's Iipmstudent9 signing a comment left by 61.16.233.194 (05:08, 28 December 2006). Same IP used by Mrinal many times, and as recently as 21 December 2006.
Posts by 203.76.140.130 are signed by both Iipmstudent9 (09:46, 2 January 2007 ) and Mrinal (11:32, 21 December 2006).
Mrinal also edited from 203.76.132.74.
Queried whois.apnic.net with "203.76.132.74"...
- Information related to '203.76.132.72 - 203.76.132.79'
- inetnum: 203.76.132.72 - 203.76.132.79
- netname: IPM-NM
- country: IN
- descr: IIPM PLANMAN
- descr: OKHLA KALKAJI
- descr: DELHI
- admin-c: JH1655-AP
- tech-c: JH1655-AP
- status: ASSIGNED NON-PORTABLE
Mrinal more or less admitted to working for IIPM here.
- Will do that. Do give me an idea about what all you would need. I'll get all of them mailed in one go from the IIPM corp comm office to your email address. That way you'll be able to verify the same appropriately. (12:22, 4 July 2006)
Edits
- 10:04 24 November 2008 “According to the institute, it is neither a university, nor has sought recognition from regulatory bodies or accreditation agencies like AICTE or UGC as its courses are non-technical and non-professional and do not come under the purview of these bodies”
- 09:55, 24 November 2008 “In March 2007, the All India Council for Technical Education (AICTE) said that students are cautioned that joining unapproved programmes can have serious consequences in terms of eligibility for employment, higher studies etc.”
- 07:07, 18 November 2008 "received serious complaints about the veracity of information given by them".
- 06:46, 18 November 2008 IIPM is under investigation from different agencies of the Government of India for misleading advertisements and unfair trade practices.
- 06:45, 18 November 2008 Removes mention that Fortune 500 companies have not visited campus
- 06:38, 18 November 2008 Removes statement that “In March 2007, the All India Council for Technical Education (AICTE) said that students are cautioned that joining unapproved programmes can have serious consequences in terms of eligibility for employment, higher studies etc.”, and replaces with a judgment about AICTE.
- 06:29, 18 November 2008 Removes “In 2007, the Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Practices Commission (MRTPC) launched an investigation into IIPM's promises of free laptops and free tours abroad for its students.”
- 06:40, 20 June 2008 Removes “In addition, the institute has been involved in controversies related to its advertising claims, investigation for unfair trade practices, tax evasion and plagiarism.”, “In August 2007, India's Corporate Affairs Minister Prem Chand Gupta announced that IIPM is under investigation for misleading advertisements.” Etc.
- 16:17, 19 June 2008 Same as 6:40 edit
Missing edits
This needs further investigation http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Indian_Institute_of_Planning_and_Management&diff=prev&oldid=41795544
See my post here http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=123320#p123320 .
Gender
- Girls like me dont meet people from the internet in person in any case, and I'd only do it if my friends are with me on campus.--Iipmstudent9 09:55, 9 December 2005 (UTC).
Mrinal is a female name.
- But I do hope that accusing a fellow editor for being a sockpuppet within a day of her editing is not a display of your discontent at someone removing your third party sourced content from not reputed websites, which are still not confirmed news magazines. In good faith, I request you to kindly not take this as a personal attack. I am reporting you in a day or two when I get time for this issue, that you have branded me as a sock puppet simply because of your personal sources have been removed. Thanks, Wifione (talk) 10:14, 29 June 2009 (UTC).
Makrandjoshi
Arch-enemy of Pandey/Wifione, and therefore not to be confused with her. Edits from 71.58.69.137. See also 71.58.60.187 = Ponytailsnipper, [2]
See the threats below. Ironically, Makrandjoshi (T-C-F-R-B) continued despite the threats. It was the meticulous and systemic approach of Wifione which seems to have driven him away at last.
- 17:19, 31 January 2007 Makrand ji, aapko dar nahi lagta hain? Ye IIPM log aapko maarenge = something like "Dont you get scared? these iipm guys will kill you".
- AlamSrinivas - was blocked on 06:48, 12 February 2007 for death threats such as the first one above.
- 21:18, 14 February 2007 "Your house, car, family, any thing, will now be targeted--- watch out, they will get you.. I want to warn you because I know they have thousands of students, bhai!"
- 21:20, 14 February 2007 "This blocking thing is a joke - I already found your address and it is being discussed how to destroy you... will watch u scream and enjoy, MJ!!! Can't wait to thrash you with my belt"
Bullying admins
[To MJ] Two choices: either file an WP:SSI right now or the next time I see a sockpuppet or outing attempt, you will be blocked. If it's true, we'll deal with it. Otherwise, it's nonsense that disruptive. I don't care if it's true or not, this is not an appropriate use of a talk page. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 10:05, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
And if you attempt to out someone again, it will not be a short block. That is not even remotely amusing to me. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 10:06, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Ricky, you just left a message on the administrative noticeboard [45] which said "Two choices: either file an WP:SSI right now or the next time I see a sockpuppet or outing attempt, you will be blocked. If it's true, we'll deal with it. Otherwise, it's nonsense that disruptive. Repeated on the talk page.". Who was the message intended for? It's not clear whether you were writing to me (the person who's complained about the "attempt to out") or the person whom I've complained about (user Makrandjoshi). Wireless Fidelity Class One (talk 10:31, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
I hope this is clear, as are these edits. If you are suggesting someone is a sockpuppet or guessing at people's motivations, same warning to you but I don't see that. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 10:34, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Ricky, perhaps you're mistaken. You left a message on my talk saying "If you are suggesting someone is a sockpuppet or guessing at people's motivations". I want you to kindly correct your statement. I have never even remotely suggested anyone is a sock puppet or have I guessed people's motivations. My complaint against user Makrandjoshi was that he kept on assuming everybody around is a sock puppet and he kept on assuming everybody's motivations. Kindly don't get me wrong, but I need you to realise I am not the one saying everybody is a sock puppet. Thanks Wireless Fidelity Class One (talk 10:45, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Just a general point. I haven't looked through your edits, but I just wanted to make sure it's clear the same thing applies to everybody (some people don't get that). -- Ricky81682 (talk) 11:00, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Cool. Got it. At least a short term block would have been good after so many instances. But thanks for the reply. Tc Wireless Fidelity Class One (talk 11:06, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
A block would be punishment, which is against policy. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 11:08, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Oh no. Didn't mean to go against policy. But when I saw this link on harrasment here [46], it said that "attempted outing is grounds for an immediate block". So was surprised you are still warning a user who has been requested by me so many times not to accuse, told on Wikiquette's twice not to accuse, and also told by an administrator y'day on the noticeboard complaint (Dmack), after which he again said I was a sock. That's why I was wondering. Wireless Fidelity Class One (talk 11:34, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Read your comment on my talk-page. I realize I probably went overboard and violated WP:OUTING. You said I should start an SSI immediately. I wanted to ask you about another choice. According to Wikipedia:BLOCK#Disruption-only, "accounts that appear, based on their edit history, to exist for the sole or primary purpose of promoting a person, company, product, service, or organization" can be blocked indefinitely. I think based on User:Wifione's history, he clearly falls in this category. Every edit is aimed at reducing the negatives and embellishing the positives of IIPM. I can provide a long list of diff's if necessary. How do I go about making the case for such a block and at which noticeboard? Makrandjoshi (talk) 11:35, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Not this one. I can provide more if you'd like. You want to play that game, go ahead, but frankly, I have little patience for this kind of nonsense. WP:COIN if you want, but realize very quickly that harrassment is also policy. Frankly, most admins would have blocked you long ago for your disruption so you're on very thin ice with me. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 11:59, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
I believe the policy says "sole or primary purpose". A few other pages linked to doesn't take away from the primary purpose, which is to promote IIPM, IMHO. Anyway, I defer to your judgment on this. Makrandjoshi (talk) 12:18, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
[To MJ] Dude, I'm going to put it bluntly. Admins get to decide that sort of stuff, and involved admins don't make those decisions. If you want to go down that road, go ahead, but I'm not going to back-track through his edits and see what's going on when I see another editor who is ten times as deserving to be blocked right in front of me. And I seriously doubt I'm alone in this. Drop it. I'm watching the article and when (not if but when) that sort of nonsense comes back, I will request protection and work with the more sane editors. The ones who just want to push their nonsense will either do what's asked or be screaming into the wind. That's the way things work here. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 12:27, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I got it. When I said "I defer to your judgment" I meant I am dropping it. I don't blame you for being testy about me. I did do something stupid I should not have. If you knew the history (including legal and death threats against me on wikipedia, not that it excuses my stupidity), you'd kinda get where I am coming from. But yes, I am dropping this and focusing on just editing. FWIW, your latest edit at the page where you ask "what does India's plans for accreditation generally have to do with school?", the answer is "nothing". It's information put in there by wifione to somehow undermine the fact that those accreditation bodies have taken action against IIPM. It is one of the many many examples of wifione reducing the negatives and promoting the organization that I spoke about earlier. Makrandjoshi (talk) 12:36, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
[To MJ] Then the proper process is dispute resolution, not name-calling and other accusations. If you haven't figured this out yet, there are plenty of POV-pushers around here. It's accepted as part of the process. Try editing some of Balkans articles (or even just the general India/Pakistan headaches). -- Ricky81682 (talk) 12:43, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
I have done steps of dispute resolution before, done SPI before, and been on other noticeboards too. In each and every instance on a dispute (except for this stupid outing thing I did), admins or other editors have found me to be among the editors who are right. I have also repeatedly asked for semi or full protect for the page. I don't expect you to go through the past talk pages of the article (it'll take ages), but as stupid as what I did was, you should realize, it's an aberration. My editing is by no means disruptive in general. It's good that you'll be watching the page. You'll realize who's what very soon. Anyway, this is all I have to say on the matter today. Have a great day. Makrandjoshi (talk) 13:02, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
hi. Just left a continuing message on the admin noticeboard with new past instances of user Makrand's outing efforts. You might be interested in seeing it to consider my request for a block for corrective action [3]. Wireless Fidelity Class One (talk 05:52, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Makrandjoshi gives up
Makrandjoshi's last edit was on 25 August 2010. Wifione removed the reference to a UGC censure, a reference to EFMD removing an affiliated institution IMI from its membership, and a link to a letter by Stanford University repudiating IIPM's claims about links to the Stanford. "Any claims to this effect are false and misleading", said Stanford. The constant civility must have put him off. He asked Makrandjoshi to 'kindly see' a talk page, and 'kindly not to remove' Research and publications. After this, Makrandjoshi seems to have given up.
Timeline December 2008 - June 2009
See the article Wifione (socks).
Why did Wifione begin editing the IIPM article when she did? And why did such a prolific and determined sockmaster who is blocked in Dec 2008 after 3 years of activity completely disappear from Wikipedia? The following timeline may help to explain this.
The Pandey account was blocked on 1 December 2008. See the case report. The reason was a massive sockfarm created at various times before December 2008. Typical of these is Bigbangboom (T-C-F-R-B), who frequently warns administrators that the IIPM page needs to be protected from sockpuppets!
After the block, there was a second wave of sleepers created over January-February 2009. These are documented on a separate case report from March 2009 here, easily confused with the first case page. There were in fact over 30 socks created by Pandey in this second wave, mostly sleepers. They are characterised by both a user and a talk page being created with filler material, probably to avoid being identified by a 'red link'. The socks moved into action after the page protection expired on 5 March 2009. But they were soon spotted:
- "Accounts are all apparent WP:SPA, not sure sock or meat. Not all accounts are created at same time, but each promptly creates same/similar userpage and usertalkpage, then sleeps until IIPM page gets unprotected. Each one will make same content change (including inappropriate protection tag, clearly illustrating either blind-reverting or attempts to prevent others from altering their version) without discussion despite attempts by others to engage in talk-page editoral work. Revert one account's edit, another re-reverts. Block one, another pops up to take his place. Accounts listed above have either already engaged in IIPM edit-war or were found by searching for user/usertalk with similar content.
All these accounts were blocked over 9-10 March 2009. Additionally, the IIPM page was protected for 6 months from 9 March to 9 September 2009, restricting edit to autoconfirmed users. An autoconfirmed user is one whose account is more than four days old and which has made at least 10 edits.
- 19:38, 9 March 2009 Kralizec! (talk | contribs) protected The Indian Institute of Planning and Management [edit=autoconfirmed] (expires 19:38, 9 September 2009 (UTC)) [move=autoconfirmed] (expires 19:38, 9 September 2009 (UTC)) (Excessive vandalism)
The Wifione account was created 10:43, 1 April 2009 in the same way with some throwaway lines on the user page ("Hi! This isn't the alter ego of Wall-E (Waste Allocation Lift Loader, Earth-Class). But his best friend!"). However this account made a number of edits first, before sleeping, then making another handful of edits on 26 June 2009. The intention was clearly to make enough edits to become an autoconfirmed user. After this, the Wifione account began editing the IIPM article.
There were only a handful of edits to the IIPM article between March 9 2009, when the page was protected, and June 26, when Wifione began editing. The impetus may have been the breaking of the Careers 360 story in June 2009, added to Wikipedia on 22 June 2009.
Wifione showed a remarkable grasp of Wikipedia policy only a few days into editing the IIPM article.
- Hi Makrand, I repeat. Blogs can be never used as a reference in corporate wiki descriptions. Just count the number of blog references you have used and you will realise where I'm coming from. To defend your actions, you have given extremely rare and exceptional cases which themselves are hugely debatable. I request you to go through Wiki's policy document on editing and show to me a line that proves that blogs can be referred to so freely in this description … Thanks and cheers, Wifione (talk) 09:15, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Hence the simplest explanation for why the Pandey sockmaster disappeared after March 2009 is that she didn't. She changed her mode of operation. Seeing that sockfarms were quickly spotted and identified by checkuser, she changed to a single account with a varied mode of operation, and was successful for four years.
- First IIPM-related edit is on talk page 08:18, 26 June 2009. "I'm only making grammatical corrections, that are more or less minor." Second is 08:22, 26 June 2009 Removes 'approved' from "IIPM's programmes are not approved or accredited".
- 08:22, 26 June 2009 First edit to the article. Changes "IIPM's programmes are not approved or accredited by Indian regulatory bodies" to "IIPM's programmes are not accredited by Indian regulatory bodies". Changes "the institute has been involved in controversies related to its exaggerated advertising claims, investigation for unfair trade practices, tax evasion and plagiarism", to "the institute has been involved in controversies related to its advertising claims".
- [4] "Please check the following for me guys. Is plagiarism and tax evasion major controversies to be mentioned in the opening para? Tks Wifione (talk) 08:24, 26 June 2009 (UTC)" "And please also help me clear out repetitive lines throughout the description. For example, in various sections, the non-accreditation is mentioned repeatedly. Can we reduce these repetitions? It looks a little too made up. But please discuss and give me suggestions (or kindly do it yourself). Tks Wifione (talk) 08:30, 26 June 2009 (UTC)"
- 08:42, 26 June 2009 Removes the whole of the Careers360 information, including "Several companies such as Standard Chartered and Deutsche bank mentioned in the ads denied having ever taken part in IIPM's campus recruitment process. It was also found that the "foreign jobs" mentioned in the ads were primarily short term contracts in the Persian Gulf, with several visa restrictions, and relatively low pay packages of approximately 6-700 USD a month", "The story also carried first person testimonials from past students of IIPM who said the advertisements built up their expectations which were not met, and the jobs they got after studying at IIPM are barely enough for them to repay loans taken for paying the tuition fees at IIPM" etc.
- 09:09, 26 June 2009 Adds "At the same time, the institute has also been reported by various leading newspapers in India to have been amongst the top ranked management institutes in India".
- 10:14, 29 June 2009 He replies to charges of the Mrinal Pandey sockpuppet investigation. "Hi! I'm taken aback at the accusation within a day of my changing something that was not supposed to be seen this way. Dear Makrand, the only reason I changed the tax evasion and plagiarism stuff was because I did think that the plagiarim stuff didn't seem controversy! It's a plain statement of BusinessWeek to which IIPM has replied giving details of from where they have the copyright. With reference to the tax evasion part that I took out, when I saw the government link you had provided, it did not mention any detail of the tax being evaded." Etc. "Anyways I also have to say that despite what you are saying, I still haven't found any proof of JAM or careers360 being reputed third party sources." "t I do hope that accusing a fellow editor for being a sockpuppet within a day of her editing is not a display of your discontent at someone removing your third party sourced content from not reputed websites, which are still not confirmed news magazines."
- While it's true that the IIPM article is plagued by sockpuppets bent on whitewashing the information therein, I do think an investigation of Wifione is a bit premature after only two edits to the article. I am not seeing the same editing patterns (characterized by blanket reverting to some old version of the article) but editing with talk page discussion. ~Amatulić (talk) 19:24, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- 14:08, 30 July 2009 Chaudhuri article: removes "IIPM has been involved with numerous controversies over the years. Most them involve misrepresentation of accreditation and placements. Over the years, IIPM has claimed to have placed students in some of the top companies around the world. IIPM--best only in claims.
- 05:21, 17 August 2009 Adds [dubious – discuss] tag: "According to NVAO, the accreditation agency for Netherlands and Belgium, IMI is not recognized as a higher education institution in Belgium, and the degrees it awards are not recognized as being credible. [dubious – discuss]"
- 14 Nov 2009 Reopens the question of source Career360 on the page on IIPM. "Hi editors, A few weeks back I had raised the validity question on a source called Career360 that has been used blatantly throughout the article on IIPM by a single purpose account editor. The problem is that the source has given points of view that are neither widely held, and in many cases, go totally against the widely held information in top newspapers." Shows a comprehensive understanding of the complexities of IIPM vs Careers360. " Career 360 is a minority view held by only a handful of sources. Minority views should not be included in the articles on Wikipedia."
- 05:49, 21 November 2009 Deletes 'unaccredited'. Adds "In 2009, the Union Minister of Education formally communicated his intentions of closing down AICTE and UGC - due to corruption and inefficiency charges against the bodies - in favour of a larger regulatory body with more sweeping powers".
- 09:45, 22 November 2009 Addesa biyt 'Useless bureaucracy' of NVAO. Also adds about IMI recognising the course structure of IIPM.
- 10:19, 22 November 2009 Adds "The institute has been reported to give its students a "hands on" approach to learning …"
- 12:21, 22 November 2009 Adds to the intro " In March 2009, the University of Buckingham announced the signing of a Memorandum of Understanding with IIPM, mentioning that the Buckingham University is working together with the institute "towards the final accreditation of IIPM's BBA and MBA programmes." ".
- 10:58, 26 December 2009 Adds the italicised part to "IIPM has been the subject of controversy regarding accreditation, rankings, advertising claims, trade practices, job placement claims, and tax issues. At the same time, IIPM has also been ranked amongst the top business schools of the country in the years 2008 and 2009."
- 03:45, 29 December 2009 Changes "IIPM has been the subject of controversies regarding accreditation, rankings in third party publications, advertising claims, trade practices, and tax issues". To "IIPM was the subject of a blogging controversy in 2005." (With the comment about 'exceptional claims'. Wants to wait "till links are provided to prove a direct usage of the term "controversy"."
- 04:02, 29 December 2009 Removes the Stanford letter.
Yet more socking in March
Even the block of the second sock farm did not deter the sockmaster. Nav1000 (T-C-F-R-B) (15 March), Preetigroverr (T-C-F-R-B) (16 March), and Dean.A.Sandeep (T-C-F-R-B) who edited on 31 March, one day before Wifi created their account. All these accounts requested lifting of the page protection.
- Though I do appreciate that there has been a temporary semi-protect placed some time back, I believe this is a good time to remove it as (and I quote from Wiki policy), "Page protection should not be used solely to prevent editing by anonymous and newly registered users. In particular, it should not be used to settle content disputes." And I hope that this is not the case currently going on with this page as I find it strange that editors who have registered beyond three months are still not allowed to edit. I request administrators to kindly remove the edit lock. Sincerely, Dean.A.Sandeep (talk) 11:42, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Evading the question
- "wifione, you have indulged yet again in forum shopping. I am shocked, shocked, NOT! I have given reasons for every edit of mine. And given details for some here too. You know and I know why you are so pissed off. I caught your kapil-sibal-aicte-scrapping lie. And that has gotten you all upset. Either way, I have responded to you on that page. And I am disappointed to see another attempt of yours at forum shopping being so pathetic and half-hearted. No diffs, no details, just vague generalities. Ho hum. Makrandjoshi (talk) 06:03, 3 December 2009 (UTC)"
- 15:51, 5 December 2009:"Are you denying being an IIPM employee? As I have already said before, I think you are a sockpuppet of the individual who has in the past gone by names like Mrinal Pandey, iipmstudent9, alamsrinivas, etc. And been banned for several reasons, from vandalism, to sockpuppetry to threatening to kill me. That individual had admitted to being an IIPM employee. I think you are the same person. Even a sockpuppet investigation against you ended with the judges saying "possible, but let's wait for more evidence". Your behavior and whatever you have been writing since then has made it even more obvious to me that you are the same person. For your information, I am compiling evidence to restart that sockpuppet investigation. Especially since you have gone back to sockpuppetry....Suraj845? LOL! Anyway, my opinion is that you are an IIPM employee. And a sockpuppet of a past banned editor. I have a right to my opinion. So I will not "desist using" any words. Makrandjoshi (talk) 14:44, 5 December 2009 (UTC)"
- December 2009 Amatulics talk page where he discusses the conflict of interest (and the revealed IP from New Delhi is discussed).
- page"In the same link above, Makrandjoshi also writes, "Are you denying being an IIPM employee?" I would like to address this as a clear Attempted Outing Harassment issue on user Makrandjoshi. I want to inform administrators that I am writing directly also to the oversight committee for deleting that talk edit from Wikipedia permanently, irrespective of whether I am or not an IIPM employee. And I still await when user Makrandjoshi will be blocked pending action. Wireless Fidelity Class One (talk 09:43, 9 December 2009 (UTC)"
- "Oh and here, I did not even mention you. I was talking about User:Mrinal_Pandey (who was indef-blocked for sockpuppetry) and User:Suraj845, so I find it curious that you cite that as an instance of me calling you anything. Makrandjoshi (talk) 15:21, 10 December 2009 (UTC)"
- "Amatulic, your last reply on the talk page ended with the statement to me, "Now I must ask, what is your association with IIPM?". In the past, I have noticed you to be a great contributor on many topics. You're one of the editors I notice has an editing history which is nothing short of brilliant. I have a polite request to you, and one you I hope you would not mind, given your positive past. Please don't use such statements. It is just a request. Thanks▒ Wirεłεşş ▒ Fidεłitұ ▒ Ćłâşş ▒ Θnε ▒ ―Œ ♣Łεâvε Ξ мεşşâgε♣ 03:06, 31 December 2009 (UTC)"
- "Whenever the user has been asked about any affiliation with IIPM, he/she has evaded the question. To be fair, user is not being a vandal or revert-warring. But given the obvious pro-IIPM bias, and in tune with COI guidelines, it would be nice if the user clarifies any COI situation, either confirming or denying it. Makrandjoshi 13:17, 1 January 2010 (UTC)" [5]
- "The link at 'evaded the question' is http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Amatulic&diff=335033574&oldid=335033443, which now says "You cannot view this diff because one or both of the revisions has been suppressed", with the edit summary " Username or IP removed) (edit summary removed)".
- "can you please take out your statement "What is your association with IIPM?" from all the places you have mentioned it? The statement goes beyond a CoI question and has been made on a talk page of an article. It is quite disparaging for a fellow editor. Thanks ▒ Wirεłεşş ▒ Fidεłitұ ▒ Ćłâşş ▒ Θnε ▒ ―Œ ♣Łεâvε Ξ мεşşâgε♣ 09:14, 3 January 2010 (UTC)"
Almost admits being an employee
In December 2009 (page), Makrandjoshi accuses Mrinal Pandey of being an IIPM employee:
- "Heh! FWIW, WeiseitSuchen, this was another tell-tale sign of sockpuppets created by the user Mrinal Pandey. The userpages would have some random text, usually copyrighted material just copy-pasted from some source. Usually about famous entities or famous topics. If you go through the sockpuppets listed at Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Mrinal_Pandey and check the last versions of their userpages before they were banned, the assortment is very informative and amusing. Citigroup, Tibet problem, Kashmir problem, caste problem,Obama, Obama again, MF Hussain male sterilisation!, something financial, Google, and randomest stuff. Most of the stuff is copy-pasted from newspaper websites. The pivotal "primary" account is given more thought, be it iipmstudent9 or mrinal_pandey or wifione. But I guess we can't blame him/her for running out of ideas and falling into a rut when putting on such elaborate puppet-theater now, can we? As soon as I saw that name, also following the naming pattern, and random text about Dalai lama, it was obvious that this is another sock-puppet. Sigh, I find it depressing that I know so much about an IIPM employee's wiki habits. :) Makrandjoshi (talk) 23:46, 6 December 2009 (UTC)"
Wifione complains about this, even though the accusation was against Pandey
- … "calls me an IIPM employee again here, a clear case of another attempt of outing personal information [134], … link, see also the revision here"
Note, however, that M does mention Wifione in the same context, so not entirely a smoking gun.
Hypocrisy
- "Beyond that I think it's a good proactive step you have taken to apologise. It's a big step for you and I know that. If you had heeded my requests on two wikiquette forums and innumerable talk page requests I wouldn't have come to the admin board at all. You have to realise that it has been very saddening to see a fellow editor try and convert another into a wall of shame in every second discussion. And I have shown 17 instances of you trying to do that. And I have not even shown out here your edit summaries where you have used extremely uncivil, rude and impolite words. You do notice that I still had not brought the outing complaint against you till I saw your response to my complaint on this administrative board, post which I also requested for a user block. You have to change your outlook towards other editors - comment on content with polite words, not on character of a person - it is a rule you should have known after years at Wikipedia. Make other editors enjoy the experience of Wikipedia. Try and do that in the future on Wikipedia.Wireless Fidelity Class One (talk 03:39, 11 December 2009 (UTC)"
2010
- Adds information 14 February 2010 about the 'think tank' organised by the institute. On 10:18, 14 February 2010 he adds a quote from Chaudhuri: "According to Arindam Chaudhuri, Honorary Dean of IIPM, Careers 360 is a "poor in quality and shady new yellow journal that keeps doing illogical and brazenly false stories about IIPM! The latest being a story based upon the response to a false question sent to the education authorities in Europe where our partner Institute is based in – a process they followed in past too." "Arindam Chaudhuri also mentions that Maheshwar Peri, publisher of both Outlook and Careers 360, started this "malicious campaign" post Arindam's catching Outlook's "fraud" of using perception rankings to influence b-school ranks. As of January 2007, the online prospectus mentioned awarding of MBA and BBA degrees." As a source, he links to a story in The Sunday Indian, the newspaper edited by Chaudhuri!
05:10, 23 March 2010 " As per IMI, students already are additionally awarded the University of Buckingham MBA and BBA degrees, which are Quality Assurance Agency accredited."
- 15:33, 20 August 2010 Anti-IIPM editor: "Added new information in which Careers 360 publisher publicly tweeted how an article in the Pioneer against Careers 360 was actually a paid article by IIPM)"
RfA September 2010
RfA is successful. A number of Wikipedia insiders post objections to his highly-questionable history, especially his repeated abuse of the speedy-deletion process, but they are ignored; and at least one, Jonathan Cardy, is convinced to change his vote to "Support". WF1 smoothly deflects every objection with a false display of "Wiki-Love", thus avoiding confrontations and "civility" complaints.
- "Oppose. Anyone who considers that their best contributions to wikipedia have been their csd nominations and uaa reports and puts him or herself forward for the cloak of invulnerabity has my undying contempt. Malleus Fatuorum 23:14, 13 September 2010 (UTC)"
See File:Wifione edit chart.jpg plainly showing how RfA was prepared.
Complaint on COI noticeboard
- "Wifione's editing of The_Indian_Institute_of_Planning_and_Management is tendentious and aimed at whitewashing negative information about the institute, in a manner that strongly suggests some sort of affiliation and therefore COI. The user's editing also goes against Wikipedia:NOTADVOCATE#ADVOCATE. The user is not an SPA at first glance of his/her edit logs, but a careful perusal indicates that most of the edits have to do with IIPM or related entities, and are aimed at putting a positive spin on the article, and removing any negative information, by twisting wikipolicy, take this as an example or this or this or this edit which does not do what the editsummary says. The edits always seem like a PR exercise, to minimize the institute's criticism and to add questionable positive info. Whenever the user has been asked about any affiliation with IIPM, he/she has evaded the question."
- "WP:OUTING is the harassment policy. Asking someone if they are affiliated with an article subject shouldn't constitute outing, per se; it's a perfectly reasonable question to ask and doesn't necessarily reveal undue personal information (a person can be affiliated with a company without being an employee, for example). Nobody is compelled to answer such a question, though, and repeatedly insisting on it could be considered harassment. Since Wifione denies having a conflict of interest it can be reasonable to assume that they are unaffiliated with IIPM. -- Atama頭 23:30, 4 January 2010 (UTC)"
- "I, not Makrandjoshi, am the person who has asked Wifione more than once about possible association with IIPM. Wifione evaded the question, on three different talk pages, saying essentially "don't ask me that question" in each instance. Such evasion strongly suggested a conflict of interest, especially after Wifione spent weeks of relentless and disruptive wikilawyering to remove each and every source containing negative information from the article, as well as inserting positive spin. Evasion, campaigning to remove negative information, and adding promotional information, paint a fairly clear profile of a person with a conflict of interest. I will accept Wifione's denial of COI, but I also want to see a cessation of Wikilawyering on Wifione's part. ~Amatulić (talk) 23:54, 4 January 2010 (UTC)"
Atama supported Wifone's RfA. Amatulic is not so supportive.
- "Amatulic, you are an editor with a good background and good editing history. It'll be good if you do not make statements such as "Now I must ask, what is your association with IIPM?" This is the second time you're writing this statement or a similar statement. ▒ Wirεłεşş ▒ Fidεłitұ ▒ Ćłâşş ▒ Θnε ▒ ―Œ ♣Łεâvε Ξ мεşşâgε♣ 05:08, 31 December 2009 (UTC)"
- "Rather, it'll be good if you don't evade the question. Conflicts of interest should be disclosed, per the official guideline Wikipedia:Conflict of interest: "Editors with COIs are strongly encouraged to declare their interests, both on their user pages and on the talk page of any article they edit, particularly if those edits may be contested." Your edits are contested by multiple editors here, and your edits and arguments (some of which seem to me to be grasping at straws) appear to lean not so much toward balance as toward painting IIPM in a positive light. So I think the question is fair. Need I ask a third time? What purpose is served by evasion? ~Amatulić (talk) 06:02, 31 December 2009 (UTC)"
This edit on 08:51, 22 November 2009 is particularly bad.
- "Students who complete the certificate courses become eligible to apply for MBA/BBA degrees from the International Management Institute (IMI) Belgium, which describes itself as an autonomous, not for profit institution.[30][20][31]. Career 360, an Indian career oriented magazine, reported unidentified sources in NVAO, the accreditation organization for Dutch and French courses offered in Netherlands and Flanders(Belgium), commenting through email that "IMI Belgium is not a recognised higher education institution (neither in the Dutch nor the French speaking part of Belgium). Since it is not recognised it cannot award recognised degrees." However, NVAO, as per its memorandum, does not have the powers to oversee English degrees and does not operate for the English areas of Belgium. [32] IMI degrees are offered in English. [33] NVAO's usefullness has been criticised by some commentators in the past (Thus Bram Delen, student at the University of Leuven, called it a "classical example of useless bureaucracy",[34][35] Prof. Arnold Heertje and Anne Marie Oudemans have argued, in response to an appeal by Karl Dittrich, Chair of NVAO,[36] that the process bureaucracy of NVAO is swallowing up substantial funds, especially in the field of Higher Professional Education, without producing reliable results.[37]."
Edits from IP
Also spotted on WO:
- "There is another IP edit of interest, this one even more interesting. An IP made a seemingly innocuous edit to Wifione's page, and was promptly reverted by Wifione. What is bizarre is that the revision has been altered to remove the IP from the edit, but it still remains in the subsequent edit summary. Seems Wifione, who was not yet an admin, had someone erase evidence of a logged-out edit, but the responsible admin did not quite catch it all. Said IP geolocates to Mumbai. As Nichalp is from Mumbai this could confirm Wifione as a returning Nichalp. The IIPM IP edit to his user page could be Nichalp editing from their offices or it could just be a sign that IIPM were keeping a close eye on the page of their paid editor." (Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:34 am).
Peter Damian "This diff is an interesting one. Who suppressed it? If you move to the next but one edit you see that Wifione's reply has appeared as if by magic. The comment on the first diff says "Username or IP removed) (edit summary removed)"
Tarantino: "Why did Wifione ask for that edit to be oversighted? She didn't when she made edits logged out from 59.161.122.127, 59.161.112.6, 59.161.123.187 or 115.117.148.79."
2011
- 16:30, 9 August 2011 reverts "A truth spoken for public good can never be called defamatory"' para with comment " Pl don't use "Lounge" pieces for exceptional claims; also, you're violating copyvio rules completely; and don't delete RS while editing."
- 04:07, 23 August 2011 Again removes the High Court judgment with comment "Exceptional claim; use RS and not primary sources for exceptional claims; once you put RS, place only relevant portions."
2012
- 04:55, 24 January 2012 Removes "UGC and AICTE objections". This is where he finally removes the section about Careers 360, with the comment "add reformatted article vide talk page note".
- Permalink – talk page "Therefore, under Exceptional, I feel there's some weight to removing them. Please suggest as these links also qualify on being Primary, as well as now being questionable due to parties being involved in the court cases with IIPM with judgments coming in recently. This is apart from investigative reports like those of Careers360 being primary in nature. And there being no other sources that confirm the details. So going by Exceptional, I feel that unless there are independent multiple reliable sources that support what Careers360 says, it should be removed being a primary source with a conflict of interest. I also feel the IIPM links that talk about these people are also questionable using the same viewpoint. In this discussion, I do not include the Uttrakhand issue as there is the Tribune story to back it up too." [Wifione Message 11:01, 20 January 2012 (UTC)]
- 11:05, 2 February 2012 The whole section on the Outlook judgment now reads: " In 2009, IIPM filed a criminal defamation charge against Careers 360.[101] According to Arindam Chaudhuri, Honorary Dean of IIPM, the courts in February 2010 had admitted IIPM's defamation cases against Outlook and Careers 360.[93] In May 2010, the court upheld that the contents of the Careers 360 article were "prima facie defamatory" and issued bailable warrants against Maheshwar Peri, publisher Careers 360 and Outlook, and Mahesh B Sarma, editor of Careers 360 magazine.[101] In September 2011, the Delhi High Court dismissed a petition filed by Outlook Publishing Private Limited and Maheshwar Peri, publisher of Outlook and Careers 360, and "upheld the order passed by the metropolitan magistrate" with respect to a criminal complaint filed by IIPM's sister concern, Planman Consulting India Pvt Ltd. The Delhi High Court held Outlook Publishing Private Ltd, publisher Maheshwar Peri, Outlook editor Vinod Mehta[102][103] and other petitioners (except the Directors of Outlook) "prima facie liable for publishing [the] derogatory and defamatory article."[104] Both Maheshwar Peri and Vinod Mehta resigned from Outlook in early 2012.[105][106]" Ref 105 actually says that Peri went to pursue other interests, and would still contribute to Outlook. Note this says "The Delhi High Court has dismissed a petition filed by Outlook Publishing Private Limited as a publisher company along with other petitioners including the editor of the magazine, Maheshwar Peri, publisher and author and its printer IPP Ltd and upheld the order passed by the metropolitan magistrate in a criminal complaint filed by Planman Consulting India Pvt Ltd. The High Court observed in its order on September 13, 2011 under the provisions of the Section 7 of the Press and Registration Act, 1867, that above mentioned petitioners are prima facie liable for publishing the alleged defamatory article and for harming the reputation of the Planman Consulting, a sister concern of IIPM without any reasonable grounds. The court did not find any merit in the petition to overrule the order passed by the magisterial court. The case was filed by Planman Consulting under Section 499, 500, 501 and 502 of the IPC against the editor, Maheshwar Peri of IPP Ltd along with its directors for publishing derogatory and defamatory article. The metropolitan magistrate had taken cognisance of the offence and issued process in its order on September 30, 2009. However, the HC set aside the order of the lower court against the directors of Outlook Publishing and accepted their plea that as directors they were not involved in day-to-day operations."
- 15:00, 6 February 2012 Adds "an August 2011 UGC meeting decided that Amity University Rajasthan be asked to prepare a compliance report on their response to the expert committee's various observations on "deficiencies" still existing and other suggestions."
- Here(15:12, 6 February 2012), Wifione seems to be working on IIM and Amity (Competitors to IIPM) articles, as well, possibly trying to show them in bad light. E.g. "The university has been involved in controversies, including refusal by the Universities Grants Commission (UGC) to recognize Amity University and an international arrest warrant against its founder president Ashok Chauhan.
- He changes policy pages 05:11, 7 February 2012 – "A book review too can be an opinion, summary or scholarly review".
- 05:58, 10 February 2012 ISB adds "None of the institute's programs are accredited by All India Council for Technical Education, the government accreditation body in India. ISB is accredited by the Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business."
- Denies he is Nichalp here: 08:39, 6 March 2012
- "Wifione, I think you should know about this and this. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 08:39, 6 March 2012 (UTC)"
- "Thanks Vejvančický. Appreciate the note. Replied considerably. Do contact me for any further assistance. Kind regards. Wifione Message 05:33, 7 March 2012 (UTC)"
- See also here. "I discussed this with some other admins and active Wikipedians. Nobody wants to fight this case. The alleged institution has an infamous history of suing individuals for insane amounts, that too at the courts in the remotest parts of the nation. I did also inform some of the members of Arb Com. They feel that there is no credible evidence as such -- Tinu Cherian - 11:45, 6 March 2012 (UTC)" Vejvančický played a large part in bringing Wifi to justice, nearly 3 years later.
- "Are you Nichalp? --SmokeyJoe (talk) 10:42, 7 March 2012 (UTC)"
- "Hi Smokey. No, I'm not. Do write back for any other assistance. Best regards. Wifione Message 19:16, 7 March 2012 (UTC)"
- 05:27, 16 March 2012 "The Ministry of Human Resource Development (India) announced in April 2010 that ISB was among 201 Indian institutions that were "identified as unapproved institutions which are running courses in violation of regulations of All India Council of Technical Education (AICTE).""
- 16:57, 4 July 2012 Removes "this section reads like an advertisement" and replaces it with "The institute states that "Rankings don't matter" and it has "strong reservations on the methodology applied by most of the magazines to rank b-schools.", cited from the Institute's own website.
- Removes advert template 17:39, 4 July 2012.
- 17:44, 4 July 2012 In the book The Beautiful and the Damned: Life in the New India, it is stated that he makes money from the students who do not have money or do not qualified to get into wikipedia:Indian Institutes of Management.
- 12:19, 26 October 2012 Adds to the lead: "ISB has been involved in controversies in the past, including not being accredited by the All India Council of Technical Education (AICTE) and its founder Chairman Rajat Gupta being sentenced for insider trading", with the comment "reformatted intro to balance the whole article".
- 11:16, 1 November 2012 Adds "Tim Sullivan of Associated Press describes Ashok Chauhan [founder of Amity U] as "a man far from the typical educator, he's an industrialist, a businessman -- and wanted in Germany on fraud charges. He's a self-proclaimed philanthropist who is often surrounded by a phalanx of bodyguards: grim-looking men in polyester safari suits." "[1]
- 15:09, 3 November 2012 (UTC) "Dear wifione, I really thank you for taking such active interest in the Amity page. I need your help in the issue of Dr Ashok Chauhan as over the years he has undergone a lot of pain due to a ring of blackmailers who from all sides have tried to damage him. you are well aware of many of the articles which came out. sadly journalists and other people can be bought to write anything. further sadly good journalists and editors take what has been written and take it for the truth and write an article based on it. Thus a chain reaction starts. herewith i would like to direct you to a scan of an original letter from the German Criminal authorities confirming that there is no warrant/search and also that there is no interpol search.<small<(redacted) a humble request is that do not circulate this or put it up on websites. i am taking a step of deep trust in you. This issue, after many years, because of your putting up on wikipedia is causing damage to so many students of Amity. I would really request for your judgement on this. There cannot be any document more clear than the one i am giving you. With many thanks. Higheredutrust (talk) " (who is blocked, [6] the next day).
- 07:06, 8 November 2012 Adds back whole 'controversies' section. To Amity University.
- Amity university again 15:57, 26 November 2012
- 09:32, 28 November 2012 Indian School of Business: Removes "However ISB has never used the words diploma, certificate or degree in any publicity material, choosing instead the neutral appelation "Post Graduate Program"." [Although this is exactly the kind of statement he adds to the IIPM article].
2013
- 17:29, 8 January 2013 Adds "The school has been involved in controversies in the past, including withdrawal of recognition by AICTE and an international arrest warrant against its founder president Ashok Chauhan"." As per a 2009 Central Information Commission appeal ruling, German judicial authorities have issued arrest warrants against Ashok Kumar Chauhan and Arun Kumar Chauhan, directors of the Amity group of institutions on charges of fraud in Germany.
- 18:35, 24 January 2013 Removes commendatory reference to Amity U "removed fluff piece references".
- 07:53, 21 February 2013 Adds "IIPM was ranked the 2011 Best B-school in Asia overall among B-schools from 29 countries at the second Asia's Best B-School awards held in Singapore. It was the second Indian B-School to win this award". Removes "IIPM has not been accredited by any Indian agency such as AICTE and UGC, nor is it recognised under any state acts." The 'best B-school awards' are organised by Business School Affaire. The basis of their award is not known. Removes " In July 2012, UGC issued a notification regarding unrecognized status of the institution taking note that the institution is not entitled to award BBA/MBA/MCA degrees".
- Removes "It has been alleged that IIPM engages in misleading advertising practices" 14:20, 21 February 2013
- 18:01, 23 February 2013 Removes "Historically, IIPM has also been by far the largest advertiser among Indian educational institutions." Removes "IIPM has been involved in controversies with respect to its advertising."
- 16:16, 6 November 2013 adds a disparaging reference to a rival. "That year, AICTE also brought out an advisory for students to "avoid 168 unapproved colleges"; the list included Amity".
Wifione has also manicured the article on the Chaudhuri himself. Edits include:
- Removes [7] information about a police case 12:44, 27 August 2013 ("get multiple high quality sources for this exceptional claim"). The source was Times of India. "In past few days several students have raised their voice against the institute's management in the city. They also sat on protest outside the institute demanding refund of fees, said reports."
- He removes material that includes "Chaudhuri had earlier got an injunction from a court in Silchar against the publishing of an article on him and IIPM in Caravan magazine. This censorship was called a clear abuse of the judicial process by legal experts in the media, and led to a huge outrage in traditional as well as social media". His reasoning is on the talk page 14:14, 21 February 2013 (UTC) is that "I see no personal involvement of Chaudhuri in this. Chaudhuri's role is only as an official spokesperson". "Your sources too are far from exceptional. For exceptional claims, you need multiple, non-primary reliable sources". Links to Wikipedia's policy on exceptional claims and exceptional sources
- The Hindu February 19, 2013 "Governments and official agencies try very hard to control the Internet, but the design of this global network with no physical centre makes it difficult to achieve. What is blocked in one territory is accessible in the rest of the world. More importantly, scrubbing is counterproductive. That bruising lesson must have been learnt by all actors involved in the blocking of over 70 web pages containing content critical of the Indian Institute of Planning and Management, an agency that widely advertises a variety of study courses and degrees. The online community has responded with a counter-offensive against the institution on a devastating scale, and called attention worldwide to precisely what the institute wanted purged."
November 2013
- November 17 2013. When Vejvančický leaves a comment on W1's talk page, mentioning the controversy that has broken out, W1 revdels it, with the comment ""changed visibility of a revision on page User talk:Wifione: content hidden (RD6: Non-contentious housekeeping, RevDel corrections, notes, conversion)"
- This is the edit by Vejvančický.
- 21:31, 17 November 2013 - archives the page with protection.
- Cries of harassment: 14 November 2013.
- "I'm an administrator on the English Wikipedia. User Peter Damian is sending me harassing emails through this meta-wiki (as he is blocked since 2010 on the English wiki with his email being disabled). I wish to report these emails for their content and wish to request action on Peter's email account access on Meta and perhaps a block too, if the admins/bureaucrats here so deem fit. Is this the right forum to request so? Thanks.Wifione (talk) 10:08, 14 November 2013 (UTC)"
- November 19 2013 permalink.
- "It has been brought to my attention that Wifione has abused RevDel by using it to hide the history of his or her user talk page - 210 revisions hidden with a claimed reason of RD6 ("Non-contentious housekeeping, RevDel corrections, notes, conversion"). I am bringing this up here rather than simply wading in and resetting the visibility of the affected revisions because I am severely concerned at this misuse of a privileged tool."
- "Hi Scott. Sent you an email on this. Kind regards. Wifione Message 14:12, 18 November 2013 (UTC)"
- "I don't discuss apparent administrator abuse matters in private email. If you have anything to say to me on the topic, you can do so in public. — Scott • talk 14:26, 18 November 2013 (UTC)"
- "WP:AGF - why immediately assume there is abuse of tools? GiantSnowman 14:54, 18 November 2013 (UTC)"
- "I'm not assuming anything. Deleting conversations after a year and a half on the public record (as RD6, to boot) and then claiming the material is eligible for oversight removal is abuse. RevDel is not a convenient memory hole for administrators to remove chunks of their talk page history if they get embarrassed by it further down the line. — Scott • talk 15:33, 18 November 2013 (UTC)"
- "After my communication to the oversight team as per the rev-del policy, they've replied a few minutes back saying that the edits do not meet the criteria of suppression. Again, as per what the rev-del policy advices, when the material is not found to be suppressible, the material may be restored or admin-deleted. Of the two choices, I've chosen to restore the material. Thanks. Wifione Message 18:39, 18 November 2013 (UTC)"
- On 2 December, a lengthy exposé of Wifione's activities was posted on the Wikipediocracy blog. It attracted a number of comments from Indian users of Wikipedia. It also attracted a number of hostile attacks from someone calling themselves "Wikied", to wit:
- "Ed if someone were to ask you repeatedly, whether your mother was a prostitute, would you believe the simplest way to answer the question is with a “No” everytime? The fact is that you'll just start ignoring the idiots who ask such questions or report them to higher authorities. This is exactly what Wifione seems to have done with your repetitive queries. You surely are not Arbcom for him/her to feel you should be given an answer. Ed, I don't mean it wrongly but your article is nothing but a cut copy paste job of an earlier anon email floating on the net. And the diffs you claim you've not revealed are no great shakes either as all of these are in public domain already since Wifione's RFA. It must be quite clear by now to the readers of this article how you've misrepresented facts deliberately and claimed financial conflicts without supporting evidence. My parting take, be responsible in your future reporting and inferences."
Discussion on Jimbo talk December 2013
There were two discussions on Wales's talk page. The first was started on 3 December 2013, in the wake of the WO article.
- "Wifiones 17th edit ever to Wikipedia was to the talk page of Indian Institute of Planning and Management, where they stated that it was an interesting article and that they would do some "more or less minor" "grammatical corrections" whereupon they proceed to make a series of edits to that article which includes rephrasing: "In addition, the institute has been involved in controversies related to its exaggerated advertising claims, investigation for unfair trade practices, tax evasion and plagiarism" to "In addition, the institute has been involved in controversies related to its advertising claims", deleting sourced criticism based on investigative journalism and adding unsourced praise of IIPM."
- "Let us not forget that they did indeed post a series of polite but rather obvious comments on the talk page while they were doing that: "Is plagiarism and tax evasion major controversies to be mentioned in the opening para", "For example, in various sections, the non-accreditation is mentioned repeatedly. Can we reduce these repetitions? It looks a little too made up" and "Though JAM calls itslef JAM magazine (I guess Just Another Magazine), there is no confirmation that this is a magazine. There is no registeration of it as a magazine or a newspaper"."
- "And after having professed innocence at the sock puppet investigation which a vigilant editor had posted about Wifione being a grunt in the sock puppet army of IIPM that had previously been active on those articles, proceeded, as their 38t-40th ever edits on Wikipedia to cleanse the article of director of IIPM Arindam Chaudhuri from criticism step by step."
- "Meanwhile they were continually busy trying to find an avenue where Makrandjoshi (T-C-F-R-B), the one single active Wikipedia editor that had actively been aware of Wifiones purpose, could be countered by claiming to be a completely new Wikipedia editor who for unknown reasons was being hounded by this malicious editor: 1, 2, 3."
- "You know, the kind of inexperienced newbie editor that in their 24th edit ever to Wikipedia knows how to provide a link to the official Registrar of Indian Newspapers in order to invalidate sources critical of IIPM. Much less damning editing behaviour has resulted in indef blocks for Wikipedia:WP:COI editing in the past. I would be interested in knowing what makes this case different? --Saddhiyama (T-C-F-R-B) 00:49, 5 December 2013 (UTC)"
Wifione did not comment. Later, in response to an email from Peter Damian (Dec 14, 2013 6:57:38 PM) Jimbo raised the issue on his page again.
- "There was a discussion about this here a while back that got a bit heated. I'd like to restart that conversation primarily by asking people to post a neutral summary of what is known and not known. I'd appreciate Wifione commenting here as well.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 18:43, 16 December 2013 (UTC)" Link
- Well those are certainly very poor edits, and they certainly do not meet my expectations of what Admin editing behavior should be like. But isn't the allegation that he has a specifically financial conflict of interest? What is the evidence for that?--Jimbo Wales (talk) 14:26, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
Much talk was posted, no action was taken. Wifione did not participate in either discussion. "It's striking that there's yet to be any comment whatsoever from User:Wifione. --SB_Johnny | talk✌ 00:16, 23 December 2013 (UTC)"
2014
Jan 2014 Times of India
Wiki-paid-y a? Sandhya Soman,TNN Jan 12, 2014, 04.13 AM IST. Mentions Eric Barbour. Brought up on Jimbo's talkpage.
- "it would be best if he just doesn't come back.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 16:57, 12 January 2014 (UTC)"
- "Mr. Wales, at the outset, let me offer my apologies to you and to the editors concerned that I couldn't comment on the discussions on this issue the last time you had initiated the same on this talk page. As Vejvančický mentions, I was on a wikibreak (which I generally take during this time of the year). I do wish to mention here that I've initiated an editor review at Wikipedia:Editor review/Wifione. I'll be grateful if you and concerned editors could direct all your questions/comments with respect to my editing to the review, as this would allow the community to have a consolidated platform for current and future use, to review my editing. In case you should wish me to respond to specific questions, please do list them out at the review and I'll try my best to provide comprehensive clarifications (and apologies, in case I've made editorial mistakes). Thanks for the patience. Best regards. Wifione Message " 21:15, 12 January 2014 (UTC), Editor Review.
Apparently Wifione retired from editing in January 2014 after a series of damaging accusations at his editor review. Even Jimbo thought it would "be best if he just doesn't come back".
July 2014
However, he returned in July 2014 to reply to the accusations, with counter-accusations of 'harassment', collusion and canvassing at Wikipediocracy and so on. The review ended inconclusively. He closes the review himself:
- "It is the comparison what is important and what you completely omit in your responses". Please see my replies to Mastcell below for my responses to trusted Wikipedia editors on comparisons between the two BLPs. I know you are no fool and I think that you was familiar with the Wikipediocracy thread a long time before you presented it here as a big revelation. I do not follow Wikipediocracy and prefer to be quite far away from such a forum. Not to forget, leaving two canvassing/call-for-action examples I've given above, all the others are extremely recent, and the critical ones involved you - quite some revelation for me. You came back after the issue faded out, decided to ignore it and you resumed editing as if nothing happened. I hope I've measured up now. Your responses here are evasive at best. In my opinion, I've made quite some effort to answer everybody. I don't think I've been evasive and my answers have taken up the core of each issue presented. But more importantly now, as a matter of judgement, I would not wish to answer editors active on Wikipediocracy threads that are attempting to out me. I have no issues with criticism on this project and I've answered all trusted and respected editors to the best of my efforts. But I draw a line given the antecedents of the group of editors from that thread. Having said that, this is my final olive branch. If you confirm that you will not be active on the particular Wikipediocracy thread any more, then drop me a note on my talk page and I shall re-open this review. Subsequently, I shall continue interacting with you on the project and answering all your queries, here and everywhere. But if you believe that's not possible for you, then there's no need to leave me a reply, in which case, I would request you to kindly stop interacting with me on this project till the time you change your stand. I really do not intend to be the sounding board for Wikipediocracy editors. I'm not trying to dictate your freedom of expression, simply ensuring you're clear of my stand on forums and threads attempting to out the identity of editors. Do go through three of our policy pages on pitfalls of consensus building, off-wiki issues and off-wiki attacks whenever you have time. That's about it. Thanks for taking the time out to comment out here. I'm archiving this page now. Regards. Wifione Message 11:22, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
It is taken on 07:16, 12 August 2014 to Wales' talkpage – no one is interested.
August 2014
Vejvančický resigns as administrator 23 August 2014 as a result of Wifi's manipulation.
- Please remove the admin user right from my account. I don't want to be in the same elevated rank with dishonest manipulators, such as User:Wifione. I'll try to continue as an ordinary editor (I still consider myself one), although I've lost my trust to Wikipedia as a project that can recognize between good and bad, or at least search for honest answers. No, Wikipedia is deaf and helpless. Good luck with your nice and polite cheaters. --Vejvančický 06:58, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
December 2014
After Vejvančický (T-C-F-R-B) had a go at him on Jimbo's talk page, Wifione lashed out with a complaint at ANI.
- "Dear all, I need some intervention/suggestion on how to handle former admin Vejvančický. Post my editor review, where I had requested him to stop discussing me on Wikipediocracy if he wished me to answer his queries further, he seems to have been personally attacking me repeatedly. I've been ignoring him till now (and can continue to do so, if that's the suggestion here), but need your views on three particular instances:
- "On 23rd August this year, Vejvančický wrote on the Bureaucrats' Noticeboard, "Please remove the admin user right from my account. I don't want to be in the same elevated rank with dishonest manipulators, such as User:Wifione".[81] My name was soon enough redacted from his statement by another editor. I felt Vejvančický's statement was an unnecessary personal attack, but ignored it. Others on the BN noticed this too.
- "Later on, in a recent RfA, Vejvančický asked the candidate a question that ended as follows: "Would you trust administrator User:Wifione as your "confidant" after reading the review?"[82] Again, this was an unnecessarily constructed question, apparently intended to be a personal attack as I had asked a question to the nominee just some time before Vejvančický had. I ignored this too. Seeing that the candidate had my support, Vejvančický then proceeded to oppose the candidate giving the additional reasoning, "Also the presence of User:Wifione in the role of a polite and discreet behind-the-scene mediator is unacceptable to me. Find a better company next time.".[83]
- "On 9th December, after I had congratulated Jimmy Wales for a recent award, Vejvančický immediately posted the following comment: "What a cordiality and friendly speech from someone who has been told "not to come back" (by Jimbo Wales himself), not long time ago! I admire your ability to forgive, User:Wifione. Btw, you don't work for Mr. Chaudhuri anymore? I mean, you don't manipulate those articles since it was exposed in your editor review and in other places ..."[84]
- "For once, I did not ignore this and I immediately requested Vejvančický to remove the personal attack and allusion that I was working for some person. Today, Vejvančický refused to remove the personal attack, and wrote this as his reply to me on his talk page: "I've seen a lot of your "work" (many examples of your manipulation and subsequent super civil prevarication/obstruction) to be sure that I'm not mistaken, so I won't redact anything. The rest is at Wikipedia:Editor review/Wifione"
- "I don't know how else to request him to stop his personal attacks. I would have expected him to get blocked for such repeated comments, if he had been any other editor. Vejvančický does good work around the project and somehow, if someone knows him well and could convince him to stop making such statements, it'll be helpful. If not, I'll appreciate some sort of a ban on him either interacting with me, or discussing me like this. Any suggestions will be helpful. Thanks. Wifione "14:51, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
- "Wifione, you haven't had much response here. One reason might be that there is rather a lot of material to wade through (I have, for the first time, read all the way through that editor review). This matter (and the various associated allegations) have at times over the past few years come to the attention of ArbCom. If you or Vejvančický are not satisfied with any resolution of the matter that is proposed here, and/or the community are unable to deal with this to your satisfaction, it may be time to raise it formally as an arbitration request to get an in-depth review of this and finally put things to rest one way of the other. I'm saying this as one of the outgoing arbitrators. For the avoidance of doubt, I would recuse from any case request that was made on this matter before 31 December 2014, and I do hope that you get sufficient responses here that it can be dealt with at a lower level of dispute resolution. [User:Carcharoth|Carcharoth] 23:41, 13 December 2014 (UTC)"
WO thread. Shortly thereafter, Vejvančický, an English Wikipedia user since 2008 and a content writer of some value, left en-WP.
On 24 December he complains on ANI again but is given short shrift. He closes himself, although it is then reopened by Cole.
Exceptional claims
As Vejvan points out, W1 edited the very policy pages that s/he used to defend reversions.
- Wifione, I've noticed that you frequently quote wikipedia:WP:WELLKNOWN and wikipedia:WP:EXCEPTIONAL. I think that it is important to note that it was you who helped to shape these policies. I've checked some of your edits to wikipedia:WP:EXCEPTIONAL: You seem to be the "inventor" of the WP:EXCEPTIONAL shortcut (8 February 2012). Here you've added multiple to the wikipedia:Wikipedia:Verifiability#Exceptional_claims_require_exceptional_sources, with the edit summary "clarify... source's' means multiple"; here you add "Editors should avoid including exceptional claims that are not supported by multiple reliable sources"; here you (again) add multiple to the section (edit summary: "Clarifying plural: Source's'-> multiple"); here you add Any such claim not backed by multiple high-quality sources should be removed immediately (my emphasis). All these edits/additions/modifications are from 13-18 January 2012, and they were not discussed on the talk page, as far as I can see. On 11 January 2012 (days before you started editing wikipedia:WP:VERIFIABILITY or WP:EXCEPTIONAL), you've completely removed referenced criticism from the article wikipedia:Arindam Chaudhuri, stating "Please don't use primary sources for exceptional claims". On 28 January 2012, you've removed a complete section (containing rather positive claims) from the article wikipedia:Indian Institute of Management Tiruchirappalli, quoting wikipedia:WP:EXCEPTIONAL. This edit summary search shows what preceded your edits to WP:V and, in my opinion, it also clearly shows why did you become interested in WP:EXCEPTIONAL. I have to agree with wikipedia:User:The Telephone Company who pointed out to you at wikipedia:Talk:Arindam Chaudhuri in February 2012: "It will also be helpful to note that you find it convenient to edit policy pages when it suits your interests." --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 07:48, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Dear editors
Note the sections highlighted below, and see #Death_threats_against_Makrandjoshi_2007.
- "Dear Deepak, Makrand, Sticking … I request you to kindly add all the controversies in the other section; while I delete them from here. As promised, kindly feel free to revert back any changes you think you don't accept. … Take care and have a merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Regards... Mrinal 125.19.3.2 06:30, 20 December 2006 (UTC)"
- "Dear Deepak, I'm reverting back your changes, but perhaps for the last time as it looks silly that we're just reverting each other's changes. kindly notice that earlier archived pages do not hold relevance with the passage of time. … Regards, Mrinal 125.19.3.2 11:52, 20 December 2006 (UTC)"
- "Dear System Controls, NishKid, though I appreciate the edit protect of the article, as it ensures that the immediate attempts to revert without giving logic go down, I shall still request that the edit protect is removed at the soonest. … I request you to kindly revert back the edit protect at the soonest possible and blank out only those ids that were reverting illogically Mrinal Pandey 07:12, 23 December 2006 (UTC)"
- "Dear Group System Head, Syscontrol, Nishkid, Would like to bring to your notice and to that of all editors and administrator that despite being generally civil, in the very recent past user DeepakShenoy has gone against wiki policy by attempting to disclose personal information about user Mrinal on the discussion pages. … I wish you would kindly ensure that such a situation does not arise … Regards Desiree777 (T-C-F-R-B) 10:45, 23 December 2006 (UTC)"
- "Dear Deepak Shenoy has left no stone unturned in making public his acerbic hostility towards allowing me to edit :-) Mrinal Mrinal Pandey 06:20, 24 December 2006 (UTC)"
- "Dear Sir Mr. Administrator, you write in the above paragraph, "My award to Deepak was a appreciation of his efforts...". Perhaps you mean, "an appreciation of his efforts." … Mrinal Pandey 07:42, 26 December 2006 (UTC)"
- "Dear Makrand, I dont want to repeat what has already been said by others, and is in any case obvious from my detailed note above. … Iipmstudent9 12:49, 26 December 2006 (UTC)"
- "Dear HighBc, I noticed you had commented recently on a wiki site of IIPM. I wished to find out from you how to complain against a wiki administrator who, I have reasons and proof to believe, is misusing his powers to support one particular editor. … Regards, Mrinal Mrinal Pandey 12:27, 25 December 2006 (UTC)"
- "Dear Ganesh, I accept your point of view with respect to English. … I shall once again request you to kindly not edit on this project. Regards and thanks for your reply, Mrinal Mrinal Pandey 05:29, 27 December 2006 (UTC)"
- "Dear Ambuj, just wanted to clarify, I notice you've put many details on each one of the paragraphs. … Do tell me your views on that. Regards, Mrinal Mrinal Pandey 13:04, 4 January 2007 (UTC)"
- "Dear Ganesh, I'm sorry I took so long in replying. Post Christmas, got totally busy in official work :-) … I also again request you to kindly not edit this project till you are an administrator. Best regards always, Thanks, Mrinal Mrinal Pandey 13:04, 4 January 2007 (UTC)"
- "Dear Ambuj, Rashmi being the 'editor' of JAM, I believe your reference to not making ad hominem arguments would not be sufficient. … Regards and best, Mrinal Pandey 19:07, 15 January 2007 (UTC)"
- Makrand ji, aapko dar nahi lagta hain? Ye IIPM log aapko maarenge. [Makrand, aren't you scared? The IIPM people will beat you up/kill you] (AlamSrinivas at 17:19, 31 January 2007)
- Blocked for this, 06:48, 12 February 2007, but see below.
- "Dear Makrand, you cannot simply revert and or delete constructive changes. Please review the information provided in the Help pages. The object of Wikipedia is to build an encyclopaedic article. All the other editors can see that you are consistently trying to make this an attack page. Please refrain from this behavior immediately, or you will be banned by administrators. For example, you deleted the information on rankings, which has been on the page for over a year, and has been linked to online sources, scanned pages provided, etc. You simply deleted it? Further, you deleted the information on faculty the visit IIPM from global institutions - this information has been reviewed by many editors, and your act was pure vandalism. Please look at the articles provided in the HELP section, and I am sure you will see the mistakes you have made. Thanks Iipmstudent9 06:45, 2 February 2007 (UTC)"
- "Dear Maximvs, Thank you for putting in all this work! I apprecaite this effort. Thank you. … Best, Iipmstudent9 12:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC)"
- "Dear maximvs, There are no online sources, but I have found 2 newspaper clippings in the library that refer to various guest faculty. However, Wikipedia policy says that material from IIPM's website is admissible, as long as the source is identified as the official website. Therefore, I guess it amy not be necessary to scan those articles and upload them? --AlamSrinivas 13:18, 2 February 2007 (UTC)"
- "Your house, car, family, any thing, will now be targeted--- watch out, they will get you.. I want to warn you because I know they have thousands of students, bhai! AlamSrini1 21:18, 14 February 2007"
- "You've got the entire Wikipedi process backward, my dear. You are supposed to discuss edits and then make them. ýou seem to be going back ward, making changes first and then asking for reasons to change them. That doesnt make sense. Use consensus. Iipmalum 10:45, 23 March 2007 (UTC)"
- "Dear editors, I propose and request that all future changes - any change, even a revert from here on - will be first discussed here and put up for open discussion for at least two or three days before being made. Warm regards, Mrinal Pandey (talk) 06:53, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
- "Dear Makrand.. Pls add these too. … Shankarjaikishen (talk • contribs) 08:39, 7 January 2009 (UTC)"
- "Dear Makrand, kindly remove the following:- … --Gurmeet singgh (talk) 10:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)"
- "Dear Makrand, the only reason I changed the tax evasion and plagiarism"
- "Dear Makrand Joshi, I have to request you to write calmly. I feel you are trying to steamroll and harass an editor. If you're accusing me of being a person called Mrinal Pandey, I feel completely harrassed by your accusation. Wifione (talk) 12:09, 30 July 2009 (UTC)"
- "Dear editors, kindly do not revert or delete lines that do not have citations. … Mrinal Pandey (talk) 06:53, 1 December 2008 (UTC)"
- "Dear editors, I propose and request that all future changes - any change, even a revert from here on - will be first discussed here and put up for open discussion for at least two or three days before being made. Warm regards, Mrinal Pandey (talk) 06:53, 1 December 2008 (UTC)"
- "Dear editor, kindly do not remove tags which have not been resolved. i had put up a tag that told readers that i have put up the controversy section for discussion in a forum. please do not delete tags which have not been resolved. cheers Wifione (talk) 09:54, 2 August 2009 (UTC) "
- "Dear makrand, i also notice you have been regularly a 'single purpose account' for a large time. is there any reason that might be so or is it that you might be only interested in editing this page? cheers Wifione (talk) 10:10, 2 August 2009 (UTC)"
- "Dear Nvineeth, perhaps you should look at the following link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Third_opinion. cheers, Wireless Fidelity Class One 05:03, 3 August 2009 (UTC) Wireless Fidelity Class One 05:08, 3 August 2009 (UTC)"
- "Dear Nvineeth, i request you to kindly note that the third party opinion tag is an informal tag put in good faith as i presume the career360 issue is between me and makrand. the 'fact dispute' tag is a tag that represents a clear factual dispute existing between editors. you cannot remove the same when there is a clear fact dispute. i am putting up this incident to the administrative noticeboard and requesting their comments. kindly do not remove the tag. Wireless Fidelity Class One 06:27, 3 August 2009 (UTC)"
- "Dear editors, is there any line or any lines that might seem not to have a neutral point of view? please discuss if you believe so. cheers Wireless Fidelity Class One 06:15, 4 August 2009 (UTC)"
- "Dear Makrand. i request you to be calm in your writing and I put forward to you these poings … cheers Wireless Fidelity Class One 06:18, 4 August 2009 (UTC)"
- "Dear Editors/ Administrators, The controversy lines and its section doesn't seems to have a balance , neutrality required for the same.--Suraj845 (talk) 08:13, 5 December 2009 (UTC)"
- "Dear Neil, then you should perhaps write that "objections with respect to its advertising" and "tax and trade practices investigations" which were resolved later. That is a neutral point of view, imo. ▒ Wirεłεşş ▒ Fidεłitұ ▒ Ćłâşş ▒ Θnε ▒ ―Œ ♣Łεâvε Ξ мεşşâgε♣ [29 December 2009]"
Block threats
- ... Makrandjoshi also writes, "Are you denying being an IIPM employee?" I would like to address this as a clear Attempted Outing Harassment issue on user Makrandjoshi. I want to inform administrators that I am writing directly also to the oversight committee for deleting that talk edit from Wikipedia permanently, irrespective of whether I am or not an IIPM employee. And I still await when user Makrandjoshi will be blocked pending action. Wireless Fidelity Class One 09:43, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- It is surprising that the user Makrandjoshi is getting away with a simple warning after such a history. I would request a block for corrective action in the future and not as punishmment Wireless Fidelity Class One (talk 05:46, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Arbitration
Acceptance
And with no warning, on Boxing Day 2014 Jonathan Hochman decides to file an arbitration against Wifione, for the same things pointed out in the Wikipediocracy blog post a year prior: paid editing, lying, and "POV pushing". See Wifione arbitration case for further evidence. Virtually all the posted comments agreed that Wifione had violated Wikipedia policies, yet they differed on what action should be taken.
Ira Matetsky weighs in, despite the impending end of his Arbcom term: "Given that realistically this case even if accepted won't get underway before my term expires on December 31, I will leave it to my colleagues to vote on. Newyorkbrad (talk) 15:47, 27 December 2014 (UTC)"
Seraphimblade makes a cowardly statement, then retracts it: "Based upon the background here, we have one of two possibilities. Either we have an administrator who is editing in defiance of the terms of use, or we have a group who is unjustly making an accusation of such. I offer no opinion as to which of those might be the case, but given the likelihood of private handling for at least some portions being required, I'm minded to accept. Seraphimblade Talk to me 20:35, 27 December 2014 (UTC)"
- "Accept. Seraphimblade Talk to me 22:40, 27 December 2014 (UTC)"
The case is officially opened on 2 January. The final vote, including new members of Arbcom, comes to 12 "accept" votes and two recusals.
See also Harry_Mitchell#A_moment_of_stupidity
Closure
The case was finally closed on 13 February 2015. Remarkably, the arbs voted almost unanimously to desysop Wifione, and to site-ban her. She was blocked by Courcelles. The awful Kudpung gave the glory to the awful Harry Mitchell:
- Your [Michell’s] contribution to this case was largely resonsible for, and vital to, its conclusion by the arbitrators. I've already said how much I appreciate you having gone well beyond the bounds of duty to research your material, but I would like to illustrate how this particular case is important in more ways than one.
- I particularly liked the admin in question and had absolutely no previous inkling of what came to be exposed at Arbcom. I somehow missed out on voting on their RfA, you supported it but no one can criticise you for that. Even the adherents of the anti-admin brigade were unable to to sway it to a non-promotion although it was a fairly close call.
- The message the recent disclosure sends to us all therefore, is that anyone who is thinking of starting yet another perennial motion to lower the bar at RfA had better think again. We can't be careful enough when (s)eleting our admins and we have a duty (including me of all people) to do more research before placing our !votes in the upstairs lobby. I already made the mistake of supporting one candidate who later turned into an unpleasant adversary and was finally desysoped for acting in a way totally unbecoming for the role we invest in our admins. See you for a beer as soon as possible. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:25, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
There was no mention whatsoever of the role of Wikipediocracy.
Facebook mates
Private PM to Peter Damian Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:36 am:
- I believe that the useless Makrand's block is a signal, but I don't know exactly what kind of signal. In any case it's blunt and reckless. Kudpung posted on Wifione's talk on 1 January, before we posted the evidence. Now it's clear to them that there's no way out of this for Wifi, but they are (I mean HJ, Kudpung and Wifi) old "friends" in the wikisense and HJ and Kudpung accept Wifi's fall only "with gritted teeth" (not sure if I use the right expression). Yesterday I noticed that Dcoetzee (banned by WMF) frequently participates in friendly chats on HJ's facebook page, with many WP admins and WMF staff. Strange.
Weird message from India Against Corruption
On Wifi's talk page 13 Feb 2015[2].
From India Against Corruption
- Hi Deepali,
- Your case is important to us in India as it exposes how Wikimedia's admins get away with harassment and libeling of innocent organisations like IAC over years and years by gaming the system.
- Once the decision in your case is published, IAC shall be prosecuting you under India's criminal laws for your syndicate's negative edits about IAC and IAC related articles. The record of this matter causes us to believe that you are Deepali Sakhare, Deepak Shah, and other persons closely associated with one Arindam Chaudhuri who had impersonated as India Against Corruption from Delhi's Ramlila grounds.
- You have attempted to harass us with a motive to criminally extort thousands of dollars from us, and have done so with full knowledge of your co-website administrators and owners like Jimmy Wales, Roger Davies, HJ Mitchell, Jonathan Hochcmann etc. who are all in this business of SEO and Pay-per-click defamation to profit by misuse of IAC's good name and reputation.
- IAC specifically mentions that your agent Ms. Bishakha Datta {WMF trustee} had suggested that we pay your firm Rs. 2 lakhs - about US$4,000 - to restore the Sarbajit Roy article, and had also suggested we pay US$20,000 for the India Against Corruption article to be corrected.
- Incidentally, these facts are now in the ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE of WMF in parallel proceedings in Switzerland where WMF is a party and represented through counsel. We sincerely hope you are GLOBALLY BANNED by WMF and your identity is disclosed to the Indian police and Indian courts.
- We are also bringing this matter to Mr. Chauhan's notice and also to Mr. Kamal Nath's as it seems that only 69 out of your 1,200 sock puppet accounts are going to be blocked.
- Have a nice day.
- India Against Corruption
Makes Newsweek
- Manipulating Wikipedia to Promote a Bogus Business School, Alastair Sloan, Newsweek, March 24, 2015 12:20 PM EDT
- Slashdot.
- "One might even blame Indian journalists, like the one who is quoted in this article blaming Wikipedia, for not better informing the public about legitimate and scam educational institutions."
- "They go to "great expense" to send their children on courses there, but can't afford a SIM card to do any research?"
- "Most degrees from India are bogus as far as I can tell".
- " Searching for honest employees and then only looking at resumes from Indians is like searching for sober employees and then only looking at resumes from Russians."
See also
Links
- Sockfarm 1, December 2008.
- Sockfarm 2, March 2009
- WO thread, December 2014
- Indian Fakers Teach Wiki PR
- Editor review
- Maheshwer Peri of Careers360 takes on Arindam Chaudhary (Youtube)
- The people vs Arindam Chaudhuri: Did govt block free speech?
- Wifi German Wikipedia account